Now, that is the truth, Derp. Thank you.
America is a Christian nation
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Now, that is the truth, Derp. Thank you.
Most of the early EuroAmericans came here to escape the vileness and intolerance of the church, dumbass. I don't see much that has changed since then. The freaking christians understood the freedoms found over here and they followed along hoping to break all that up and they're still doing it. Assholes.
You're too fuckin' stupid and narrow-minded to understand the video....the whole concept is a bit over your Cajun, southern, education,.....of course America is a free
nation, no one said otherwise....our Constitution and our laws proves it.
The undeniable point being made is that the nations very soul is based on Judeo-Christian values.....the founders were not Mulsim or Taoists or Buddist....they were
European and as such had an innate, inbred and ingrained through earliest training and association a value system on Christianity, whether they wanted it or not.....
and that is what makes us a christian nation.....small 'c'......
It is shown throughout our customs, laws, etc.....it has nothing to do with what religion we now choose to believe in but in what value system
out founding fathers innately lived by.....
Wrong again, dipshit. They came here to escape tyranny and enjoy religious freedoms. It was separation OF church and state not separation FROM church. You dumb fucks think it was a bunch of Godless pc disciples who settled this land, when in reality, it was mostly freedom seeking Christians who were fed up with the Church of England dominating their lives.
OK. Let's go ahead and build that wall wide and high. The churches have no business running anything other than themselves and they certainly have no business in the public business of governance. I'll help you with those stones, bricks and mortar to build that wall between church and state. Trouble is that's not what you want and that's not what either of us are apt to get. But I'ma activizing and agitating for original American values. What are you doing?
Gutterman. Stupid. Pay attention. When Jefferson made that statement, it was his intent to make sure that the same thing wouldn't happen here in America. Christianity isn't a church. The Church of England is. There are no brick walls on this side, my friend.
You're a freaking idiot. There is no Church of America either, right? Riiiiiiight. Not according to many.
Billy the Great Khan
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Uhh no, they were settlers looking for work. Most of the colonists on the Mayflower were not puritans, and those that were left England because of the rampant TOLERANCE of other religious ideas.
I never said there was. What I am saying is that a given church should not take control of the country, but there's nothing wrong with using Christian values to govern it. That's how it used to be, before intolerant assholes like you slithered in from the back door and started changing things. The truth is, you heathens have had your way for too long, and our patience has grown thin.
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The foundation and fundamental principle which both defines our nation and sets it apart from all the rest, is the idea that we are all created equal and blessed with inalienable rights from our creator, and not man. It is difficult, if not impossible, to make this idea anything other than a Judeo-Christian idea, because that is precisely where the idea comes from. To claim otherwise, or pretend otherwise, is completely ignorant. In that respect, one could say we are a "christian nation."
Now, the statement that "we are a christian nation" is a little disturbing to me, in that, it seems to indicate we are a theocracy, and we are not. The founding fathers never intended for us to collectively live and abide by any specific religious faith to the exclusion of all others. We are free to worship whatever we want, or to not worship at all, if that's what we want. It is only the foundation and fundamental principle of all men being created equal, that is christian-based. Believing in this principle, doesn't make you a Christian, regardless of where the principle came from. Atheists and agnostics often believe the same thing Christians do, it doesn't make them Christians any more than it makes Christians atheist.
Because of the First Amendment, it is IMPOSSIBLE for our nation to become a theocracy, it simply can't happen with the First Amendment, which ensures our right to worship freely. So when pinheads start screaming about turning us into a theocracy, remind them that it's not possible because of the First Amendment. Respecting the opinions and beliefs of Christians is no different than respecting the opinions and beliefs of Muslims, and neither effects the foundation and fundamental principle of our nation, or changes where that principle came from. Earlier, a pinhead retorted; "Our nation isn't supposed to respect ANY religion..." And this is just plain false. Our nation is supposed to respect ALL religious exercise, whether we agree with them or not. Again, this is the very foundation and fundamental principle on which this country was established. To presume our nation is to not respect ANY religion, is to presume we are an ATHEIST nation, like the Communists.
The thing that needs to be pointed out here, is the motivations behind the secular movement. Of course, there are all shapes and sizes when it comes to seculars, and I don't mean to stereotype them here, because no stereotype fits accurately, as is often the case with stereotypes. However, the liberal socialists who are seculars for the most part, have adopted this secular philosophy to facilitate socialist policies. In order to implement outright Communism, you first have to destroy God and all belief in God. This way, the masses have no savior other than government. Karl Marx talked about this philosophy extensively.
Now, the statement that "we are a christian nation" is a little disturbing to me, in that, it seems to indicate we are a theocracy, and we are not. The founding fathers never intended for us to collectively live and abide by any specific religious faith to the exclusion of all others. We are free to worship whatever we want, or to not worship at all, if that's what we want. It is only the foundation and fundamental principle of all men being created equal, that is christian-based. Believing in this principle, doesn't make you a Christian, regardless of where the principle came from. Atheists and agnostics often believe the same thing Christians do, it doesn't make them Christians any more than it makes Christians atheist.
Because of the First Amendment, it is IMPOSSIBLE for our nation to become a theocracy, it simply can't happen with the First Amendment, which ensures our right to worship freely. So when pinheads start screaming about turning us into a theocracy, remind them that it's not possible because of the First Amendment. Respecting the opinions and beliefs of Christians is no different than respecting the opinions and beliefs of Muslims, and neither effects the foundation and fundamental principle of our nation, or changes where that principle came from. Earlier, a pinhead retorted; "Our nation isn't supposed to respect ANY religion..." And this is just plain false. Our nation is supposed to respect ALL religious exercise, whether we agree with them or not. Again, this is the very foundation and fundamental principle on which this country was established. To presume our nation is to not respect ANY religion, is to presume we are an ATHEIST nation, like the Communists.
The thing that needs to be pointed out here, is the motivations behind the secular movement. Of course, there are all shapes and sizes when it comes to seculars, and I don't mean to stereotype them here, because no stereotype fits accurately, as is often the case with stereotypes. However, the liberal socialists who are seculars for the most part, have adopted this secular philosophy to facilitate socialist policies. In order to implement outright Communism, you first have to destroy God and all belief in God. This way, the masses have no savior other than government. Karl Marx talked about this philosophy extensively.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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“It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”
~George Frickin Washington
wiseones2cents
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America's founding fathers were in fact secular, though they relied on Christian terminology and symbolism to mold their agenda.
wiseones2cents
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This world has been enslaved by the rich since the days of the monarchs until now......
Billy the Great Khan
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Then why did monarchies fall?
wiseones2cents
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Most monarchies fell because of foreign influence from larger kingdoms. The largest kingdoms fell because they over extended themselves militarily and they went broke and the creditors(The rich, then lent them money to keep their kingdom afloat and just keep them as a figurehead). Then they made sure they were unable to pay their debts, keeping the kingdom in perpetual debt to the creditors. Usually it was those same creditors that were financing the enemies in the first place.
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You don't know what you are talking about. The founding fathers were certainly not all secular. I highly doubt that ANY were atheists, precisely because of the founding principles.
There is a common misconception, often presented by seuclars, that the founding fathers were "Deists" or subscribed to no particular religious belief... and the evidence is the lack of evidence to show them connected with any particular church or religious denomination. However, we have to remember a few important things here, we are talking about a time when "media" was fairly non-existent in America, and public perceptions were molded and shaped mostly by direct speeches witnessed first-hand, or reported months later in the press. It wasn't very difficult for the Founding Fathers to keep their private life private, they simply didn't talk about their religious convictions. Now, it's very important, when you are trying to establish a religiously free society, that you don't appear to be aligned or affiliated with one particular belief, because then it becomes quite a conflict of interest. Therefore, much of the details covering the fathers and their personal religious beliefs, is simply missing from the record, by design. They were compelled to not try and sway or influence the public by pronouncing their own beliefs, because of the positions they held. It was far more important to establish a government where religious freedom prevailed, without the undertones of religious manipulation or entanglement. They could never have done that, if they were running around 'preaching' their religious views. So the founding fathers mostly remained private on what they personally believed, and modern seculars now wish to take the 'lack of evidence' and turn it into something it's not.
wiseones2cents
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The fact of the mater is that American fore fathers were free masons, and free masons were agents of secular elites(European bankers). They were behind the enlightenment age. Sure they may have been inspired by Christian principles but their practices were anti Church. If they weren't? Their masters who in fact were anti-Church would have taken away their authority.
as a freemason, i take exception to your post
as to your post that the founding fathers were freemasons, that is not accurate, some of the founding fathers were freemasons, but not all of them by a long shot
do you have any proof regarding your post? if so please provide a link or links
Looking for work where? An indian trading post? There were no jobs here. The settlers were looking for a new life, and many of them were Christians.