you might try telling some of the pacific islanders that their islands are not going under and see if they believe you
more on the global warming front
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you might try telling some of the pacific islanders that their islands are not going under and see if they believe you
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what? believe me about what don?
35,000 scientists work for ExxonMobil. How many work for BP Tom, not including yourself?
that their islands are going under water
however, i appeared to have missed the other point that mankind is responsible for the rise in CO2 that is assisting global warming which i tend to accept
we are pumping huge amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and some are claiming that that has no effect, i find that difficult to accept
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Most are not claiming that there is no effect rather that the influence on weather and climate is grossly exaggerated.
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this don....
Thats exactly what I thanked Tom for,.....honesty and integrity.....
You'll have to look those words up, I'm sure you've no fuckin' idea what they mean...
and no one is denying the fact of the earth warming.....that was established long ago....and you whining like its a new discovery you made.....
i notice that he provides no link
not going to happen, too much muddying of the water by deniers and between that and people that do not want energy prices to go up, our descendants will lose
and there are still people that believe that the earth is flat, so what is your point, that people believe what they want and to hell with science?
the deniers we will have with us always as they have an axe to grind and are paid to deny by those producing the CO2
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Okay, up to this point, the information is correct and true. It is unequivocal the climate is getting warmer.
This is a statement which is not supported with scientific fact, it is an opinion.
See how easy they have twisted the propaganda knife? Of COURSE emissions induced by man come from fossil fuels, clearing forests, etc. Where the fuck else are human-induced emissions going to come from? Where human-induced emissions come from, has absolutely NOTHING to do with why the climate gets warmer.
Again... I can see the melting iceberg! I have not argued the planet is not getting warmer! Is there some logic to conclude that we SHOULDN'T be observing climate related changes with a climate that is getting warmer? Listen very carefully, NO ONE IS ARGUING THAT THE CLIMATE IS NOT GETTING WARMER! Continuing to point out what everyone already agrees is a fact, is not proving that mankind is causing the warming. It's like showing a video of the 9/11 attacks and arguing that proves the government conspiracy theories... there it is on video, the buildings came down! OMG! Must be true! You are missing a great big chunk of what science likes to call, evidence. Now, of course, there IS SOME evidence than mankind COULD BE contributing to climate change, and it's important we continue to look at that and try to understand ways we can do that less if possible. But it's a FAR CRY from just bowing up and making the outright claim that man is causing global warming.
Did the Arctic Council and the non-governmental International Arctic Science Committee also mention in their report that the PRIMARY greenhouse gas is WATER VAPOR? It outnumbers all other greenhouse gases by 99 to 1. Meanwhile, if the concern is with CO2, more trees and forests can be planted, as they THRIVE on the stuff!
This is where you jump on the crazy train, and I don't get it... you seem like a somewhat reasonable person at times.
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So financial institutions like Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank don't have a huge incentive to get carbon trading up and running? You live in a very black and white world, the real one is not as simple to understand.
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It is because the global warming fear mongers always try to tell us who is 'qualified' to have an opinion on the matter. You see if someone disagrees, then their field of expertise matters. If someone agrees then their specific field of expertise is meaningless. They have no comprehension that someone with a statistical background is capable of seeing the errors in the computer modeling.
I guy like you wouldn't bother with something published by Forbes would you?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/petergle...-climate-data/
http://www.newstatesman.com/environment/2008/01/global-warming-lynas-climate
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Obviously you haven't heard about the controversy surrounding Peter Gleick.
http://insideclimatenews.org/news/2...cuments-education-heartland-pacific-institute
Do enlighten us, please.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/0728/Vital-ocean-phytoplankton-a-casualty-of-global-warming
A new study suggests that a global rise in ocean temperatures has cut the number of phytoplankton, which are the bedrock of the food chain, by 40 percent since 1950. Other scientists link the rise in ocean temperatures to global warming.
The foundation of the ocean food chain is eroding, and global warming is partly to blame.
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That's the broad conclusion from a newly released study of a century's worth of measurements of the abundance of phytoplankton in the world's oceans.
Between 1899 and 2008, phytoplankton – microscopic, plant-like organisms in ocean surface waters – declined by roughly 1 percent of the global average per year, the study estimates. That works out to a 40 percent drop in amount of phytoplankton between 1950 and 2008, according to the study, which appears in tomorrow's issue of the journal Nature.
Beyond disruptions to the ocean food chain, such a decline would undercut the ocean's ability to take up the carbon dioxide humans have pumped into the atmosphere through increased burning of coal, oil, and gas, as well as through land-use changes, say scientists.
If the findings hold up to additional scrutiny, "that's quite remarkable," says Peter Franks, a phytoplankton ecologist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif. "If it's true, there's a lot of bad stuff going on."
Phytoplankton use sunlight to convert carbon dioxide into oxygen and into the sugars that keep the plankton alive long enough to become another creature's meal. By some estimates ocean phytoplankton are responsible for half of all the photosynthetic activity on the planet.
The trend noted in the study becomes most pronounced near the poles and in the tropics since 1950, the researchers say.
Of the factors the team considered to explain the decline, the most influential appeared to be rising sea-surface temperatures – a trend many other scientists have traced to global warming.
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A new study suggests that a global rise in ocean temperatures has cut the number of phytoplankton, which are the bedrock of the food chain, by 40 percent since 1950. Other scientists link the rise in ocean temperatures to global warming.
The foundation of the ocean food chain is eroding, and global warming is partly to blame.
Skip to next paragraphRelated stories
[h=5]Climate change messes with the food chain[/h]- World’s oceans turning acidic faster than expected
- Global warming? Lake Tanganyika, world's second-deepest lake, heating up fast
That's the broad conclusion from a newly released study of a century's worth of measurements of the abundance of phytoplankton in the world's oceans.
Between 1899 and 2008, phytoplankton – microscopic, plant-like organisms in ocean surface waters – declined by roughly 1 percent of the global average per year, the study estimates. That works out to a 40 percent drop in amount of phytoplankton between 1950 and 2008, according to the study, which appears in tomorrow's issue of the journal Nature.
Beyond disruptions to the ocean food chain, such a decline would undercut the ocean's ability to take up the carbon dioxide humans have pumped into the atmosphere through increased burning of coal, oil, and gas, as well as through land-use changes, say scientists.
If the findings hold up to additional scrutiny, "that's quite remarkable," says Peter Franks, a phytoplankton ecologist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif. "If it's true, there's a lot of bad stuff going on."
Phytoplankton use sunlight to convert carbon dioxide into oxygen and into the sugars that keep the plankton alive long enough to become another creature's meal. By some estimates ocean phytoplankton are responsible for half of all the photosynthetic activity on the planet.
The trend noted in the study becomes most pronounced near the poles and in the tropics since 1950, the researchers say.
Of the factors the team considered to explain the decline, the most influential appeared to be rising sea-surface temperatures – a trend many other scientists have traced to global warming.
[h=2]More at link[/h]
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http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/0728/Vital-ocean-phytoplankton-a-casualty-of-global-warming
A new study suggests that a global rise in ocean temperatures has cut the number of phytoplankton, which are the bedrock of the food chain, by 40 percent since 1950. Other scientists link the rise in ocean temperatures to global warming.
The foundation of the ocean food chain is eroding, and global warming is partly to blame.
Skip to next paragraphRelated stories
[h=5]Climate change messes with the food chain[/h]- World’s oceans turning acidic faster than expected
- Global warming? Lake Tanganyika, world's second-deepest lake, heating up fast
That's the broad conclusion from a newly released study of a century's worth of measurements of the abundance of phytoplankton in the world's oceans.
Between 1899 and 2008, phytoplankton – microscopic, plant-like organisms in ocean surface waters – declined by roughly 1 percent of the global average per year, the study estimates. That works out to a 40 percent drop in amount of phytoplankton between 1950 and 2008, according to the study, which appears in tomorrow's issue of the journal Nature.
Beyond disruptions to the ocean food chain, such a decline would undercut the ocean's ability to take up the carbon dioxide humans have pumped into the atmosphere through increased burning of coal, oil, and gas, as well as through land-use changes, say scientists.
If the findings hold up to additional scrutiny, "that's quite remarkable," says Peter Franks, a phytoplankton ecologist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif. "If it's true, there's a lot of bad stuff going on."
Phytoplankton use sunlight to convert carbon dioxide into oxygen and into the sugars that keep the plankton alive long enough to become another creature's meal. By some estimates ocean phytoplankton are responsible for half of all the photosynthetic activity on the planet.
The trend noted in the study becomes most pronounced near the poles and in the tropics since 1950, the researchers say.
Of the factors the team considered to explain the decline, the most influential appeared to be rising sea-surface temperatures – a trend many other scientists have traced to global warming.
[h=2]More at link[/h]
Well now, maybe they'll stop trying to get the secret recipe on the Krabby Patty.
