bp and sick gulf fish
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I am sorry but to compare the deaths of 25,000+ people and 500,000 injured with the Gulf is just loony, there is absolutely no comparison. What the hell is wrong with you anyway? BP paid up, cleaned up the oil and fishing is back to normal in the Gulf but you still want to make it into a environmental catastrophe. I somehow get the feeling that many greens feel short changed that it didn't end in a disaster and are now leaping on any piece of evidence to the contrary.
The FDA says that the Gulf is safe for fish but no doubt you prefer to trust some moonbat greenwash site instead for your info!
http://worldfishingtoday.com/news/default.asp?nyId=7049
http://blogs.fda.gov/fdavoice/index.php/2012/01/gulf-seafood-safety/
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no surprise ginger can't provide any links to support his claim.
PostmodernProphet
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from 2003....
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10388&page=191
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10388&page=191
Dipshit; the oil isn't the problem. Oil occurs in nature and as a result, there are microbes in the ocean which consume oil. Not so with the dispersants.
I am not comparing the two incidents, I am comparing nationalistic responses, but then, you knew that didn't you?
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012...nt-fish-raise-concerns-over-bp-spill-effects/
http://www.inquisitr.com/222650/eye...nd-mutated-fish-found-in-gulf-after-bp-spill/
There are many more which come up in a google search, but due to corporate intervention, I can not put links here.
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So you think the FDA are a bunch of liars?
You don't? Really? The FDA is a bought and paid for corrupt organisation like any other of our federal agencies. They have to routinely be forced to act to protect consumers like they are supposed to do. Are you generaly this naive?
PostmodernProphet
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If you read my posts, you would have seen where I said oil isn't the problem, dispersants are.
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Tommy Tutu the Slimy Limey profits from British Polluters, so he resents having to "pay" for the consequences of their greed and carelessness.
Let's see the cowardly Brit-shit come to the Gulf coast and spew his perfidious Albionisms.
Tommy Tutu the Slimy Limey profits from British Polluters, so he resents having to "pay" for the consequences of their greed and carelessness.
Let's see the cowardly Brit-shit come to the Gulf coast and spew his perfidious Albionisms.
Worse than that, as a chemist, he knows I am right.
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LOL, in his tiny tourist-economy island, a "chemist" sells condoms and fills prescriptions.
Yeah, forgot that.
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Tom, we don't see eye to eye on a lot of things but on this I'm right there with you. When the BP disaster didn't bring about the gloomy environmental results the goobers predicted there are going to be those grasping at anything they can to try to prove it did. Fishing is great in the gulf...I'm not far from there and things look good.
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Why do you hang around with the troll so much? The fact of the matter is fishing in the Gulf is back to normal, indeed more than normal as the ban mean't that stocks had time to recover from over fishing.
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I sometimes think that some Greenies just live for another environmental disaster to occur. You only have to witness their behaviour over Fukushima and the Gulf. In the case of Japan, the fact that 20,000 people lost their lives paled into insignificance as the greenwash brigade only wanted to know about the nuclear reactors.
Really Shill?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riki-ott/gulf-oil-spill-anniversary_b_1440704.html
Grand Isle, Louisiana. When I returned to Cordova, Alaska, in December 2010 after my first six-month stint in the Gulf coast communities impacted by the BP oil disaster, fishermen greeted me wryly. "See you found your way home."
Fishermen were interested in stories because even then, twenty-one years after the Exxon Valdez oil spill, there was still no sense of closure. Exxon never "made it right." How could Exxon "make right" family lives shattered by divorce, suicide, or strange illnesses stemming from the "cleanup" work? Or the sense of betrayal by the Supreme Court to hold Exxon to its promise to "pay all reasonable claims"?
As fishermen listened to the Gulf stories, one asked, "Do they know how f---ed they are yet?" No, I explained, they've only lost one fishing season and they just now are filing claims for the first deadline.
When I returned to the Gulf in early January 2011, I heard the same story from Louisiana to Florida. "Everything you warned us about is coming true." During the next four months, I witnessed "oil-sick" people from grandbabies to elders, people distraught from claims denied, shellfish fisheries collapsing, baby and adult dolphins dying in unusually high numbers, continued dispersant spraying, and the early stages of Gulf ecosystem collapse -- all while nationwide ads claimed BP is "making it right."
Two years after the BP oil disaster, I ask for people to help make it right -- in the Gulf and across the country. We have the power to stop BP and the federal government from doing more harm. It is time to exercise our power in our communities.
Much, much more at link above.
Stop the false ad campaign.
When you hear one of BP's "making it right" ads, call your local media station. Tell them to pull the greenwashing ads and get the real story. The Gulf is sick and so are its coastal residents. Money, even heaps of it, will never make it right. Airing the misleading ads only makes things worse, especially in the Gulf where people despise BP's bid to brainwash other Americans.
Stop spraying chemical dispersants.
Chemical dispersants are the oil industry's preferred method of marine spill response in the United States. Dispersants drive the oil out of sight, out of mind, while dispersant production companies like Nalco profit handsomely and the spiller writes off the expense as a cost of doing business. Big oil companies often make their own dispersants -- and profits from sales -- but hide connections through subsidiaries. Small wonder that spillers prefer dispersants.
The problem with dispersants is exactly what is occurring in the Gulf. The federal government uses outdated and minimal testing procedures for dispersants, which hugely underestimate the chemicals' impacts to marine -- and human -- life. Some of the reported chemicals in dispersants are known human health hazards; many of the proprietary chemicals are as well as we learned from Gulf disclosures. Dispersants are now linked, or heavily implicated, with the widespread occurrences of lesions and maladies in fish and shellfish, dolphin deaths, and dramatic decline in populations of some Gulf species such as shrimps and killifish.
Yet people have a say in dispersant use. For example, dispersants were sprayed in the Gulf in coastal seas and nearshore areas in direct contradiction to reports from the US Coast Guard and EPA because the coastal states have signed pre-approval letters to allow dispersant use anywhere, anytime. But people in coastal communities of America could pass local ordinances banning dispersant use in state waters after marine oil spills; people could make sure their state had a signed no-approval letter as part of their Regional Response Team's spill contingency plan. Changing the National Contingency Plan would take more effort, so let's start locally by banning these deadly chemicals in our coastal seas.
When you hear one of BP's "making it right" ads, call your local media station. Tell them to pull the greenwashing ads and get the real story. The Gulf is sick and so are its coastal residents. Money, even heaps of it, will never make it right. Airing the misleading ads only makes things worse, especially in the Gulf where people despise BP's bid to brainwash other Americans.
Stop spraying chemical dispersants.
Chemical dispersants are the oil industry's preferred method of marine spill response in the United States. Dispersants drive the oil out of sight, out of mind, while dispersant production companies like Nalco profit handsomely and the spiller writes off the expense as a cost of doing business. Big oil companies often make their own dispersants -- and profits from sales -- but hide connections through subsidiaries. Small wonder that spillers prefer dispersants.
The problem with dispersants is exactly what is occurring in the Gulf. The federal government uses outdated and minimal testing procedures for dispersants, which hugely underestimate the chemicals' impacts to marine -- and human -- life. Some of the reported chemicals in dispersants are known human health hazards; many of the proprietary chemicals are as well as we learned from Gulf disclosures. Dispersants are now linked, or heavily implicated, with the widespread occurrences of lesions and maladies in fish and shellfish, dolphin deaths, and dramatic decline in populations of some Gulf species such as shrimps and killifish.
Yet people have a say in dispersant use. For example, dispersants were sprayed in the Gulf in coastal seas and nearshore areas in direct contradiction to reports from the US Coast Guard and EPA because the coastal states have signed pre-approval letters to allow dispersant use anywhere, anytime. But people in coastal communities of America could pass local ordinances banning dispersant use in state waters after marine oil spills; people could make sure their state had a signed no-approval letter as part of their Regional Response Team's spill contingency plan. Changing the National Contingency Plan would take more effort, so let's start locally by banning these deadly chemicals in our coastal seas.