Ann Romney Has No Dignity?

Superfreak said:
Do elaborate on your other bullshit opinions Jarod... just stating something doesn't make it so. You asked me to back up the fact that Romney did well at Harvard. Which was quite easy to do. Yet here you are, being asked to provide evidence to support your opinions and you cannot do so?

Why is that Jarod? Is it because you know you can't?
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My opinion, is simply an opinion. Romney being top 5% in school is a verifyable fact. Candy, do you understand the difference?
 
Superfreak said:
Do elaborate on your other bullshit opinions Jarod... just stating something doesn't make it so. You asked me to back up the fact that Romney did well at Harvard. Which was quite easy to do. Yet here you are, being asked to provide evidence to support your opinions and you cannot do so?

Why is that Jarod? Is it because you know you can't?
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According to Romney, the poor in this country don't need any help, because they already have a safety net. Did you forget that already, SuperSpin?
 
Jarod said:
My opinion, is simply an opinion. Romney being top 5% in school is a verifyable fact. Candy, do you understand the difference?
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I understand your opinion is an opinion Jarod. The question to you is what are you basing your opinion on? You stated it was his 'policies/positions'

It is quite comical that you ask if I understand the difference. You are the one severely confused here. I am not asking you to find a fact. I am asking you to support your opinion. Do YOU understand the difference moron?
 
Rune said:
Yet you continue to support the party and demean liberals in general. What does that say about you?
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It says that I consider a half-measure better than no measure. If I have a choice between cutting some spending, I'll go with that option. I don't want the government to continue racking up trillions of dollars in debt. Does that make sense?
 
Darla said:
...according to her husband. You can't have it both ways. Either being a stay at home mom is work, or stay at home moms need to go to work to gain some dignity. It doesn't matter who is paying you to stay home with your kids - your fabulously wealthy husband, or the federal government. It's work, or it's not work. Period.

Mitt Romney says it's not work.

I've watched this entire "controversy" and it really has been hysterical. This is always about class, but the rubes always fall for it. A lot of poor women, struggling women, lower middle class women, even struggling middle class women, get their backs up and start waving around flags, wanting a parade "How dare you say I don't work!". Well, Rosen said Ann Romney doesn't work. And she doesn't. This is the deep ignorance on the part of the American people of how the wealthy live. Ann Romney doesn't change diapers, she doesn't wash floors, she doesn't cook dinner, she doesn't put gas in her own car, she doesn't change beds, she doesn't make beds, she doesn't do wash, she doesn't mend clothes, she doesn't do food shopping...Ann Romney does shit. She does not work.

And then you have the bifurcation of mothers - stay at home and working moms. As if working mothers weren't mothers. My mother worked. She came home every single night and cooked dinner for her kids. My mother worked, and she was a mom. Now to me, that is the hardest job in the world, so I reject straight out of hand the very idea that being a stay at home mom is the "hardest job in the world". It's not. But it's work.

Your average stay at home mom has absolutely nothing in common with Ann Romney. Your average stay at home mom works. She sweats. She cuts coupons. She's up nights worrying if there will be enough money for the mortgage that month. She stretches food with clever cooking methods so her grocery expenses are less. She has a lot in common with working moms who do all of that, plus handle the demands of an employer who tells her when to be where, and what to do when she gets there. But she has nothing in common with Ann Romney.

And what is dignity? Does Ann Romney enjoy dignity? If so, what bestows dignity on her? Obviously it's not being a stay at home mom, because Mitt Romney has stated that these women who are stay at home moms did not have dignity bestowed onto them. They have to "Go to work" and get some. The only possible answer is that Ann Romney has dignity because being married to a wealthy man gave it to her.

Mitt and Ann Romney think that most of us, all of us really, are so far below them they can't see us. This is class. This is class warfare. They won. You rubes don't even realize there was a war. I've never seen more bullshit written on any subject than I have seen written about this.

One final note - if anyone here knew anything about feminism they'd know that many feminists have written text, some of it peer-reviewed academic text, advocating for compensation for stay at home moms.

That's right. When you get right down to it only one group of people in this country truly believe mothering is work - feminists who want to pay women for it. The rest of you don't really believe it at all. It's just a tribal argument to you.

WASHINGTON -- Poor women who stay at home to raise their children should be given federal assistance for child care so that they can enter the job market and "have the dignity of work," Mitt Romney said in January, undercutting the sense of extreme umbrage he showed when Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen quipped last week that Ann Romney had not "worked a day in her life."

The remark, made to a Manchester, N.H., audience, was unearthed by MSNBC's "Up w/Chris Hayes," and aired during the 8 a.m. hour of his show Sunday.

Ann Romney and her husband's campaign fired back hard at Rosen following her remark. "I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work," Romney said on Twitter.

On Sunday, Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg told The Huffington Post in an email, "Moving welfare recipients into work was one of the basic principles of the bipartisan welfare reform legislation that President Clinton signed into law. The sad fact is that under President Obama the poverty rate among women rose to 14.5 percent in 2011, the highest rate in 17 years. The Obama administration's economic policies have been devastating to women and families."

Mitt Romney, however, judging by his January remark, views stay-at-home moms who are supported by federal assistance much differently than those backed by hundreds of millions in private equity income. Poor women, he said, shouldn't be given a choice, but instead should be required to work outside the home to receive Temporary Assistance for Needy Families benefits. "[E]ven if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work," Romney said of moms on TANF.

Recalling his effort as governor to increase the amount of time women on welfare in Massachusetts were required to work, Romney noted that some had considered his proposal "heartless," but he argued that the women would be better off having "the dignity of work" -- a suggestion Ann Romney would likely take issue with.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/15/mitt-romney-mothers-welfare-moms_n_1426113.html
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Include, no scruples, common sense, class, etc....
 
Voltaire said:
It says that I consider a half-measure better than no measure. If I have a choice between cutting some spending, I'll go with that option. I don't want the government to continue racking up trillions of dollars in debt. Does that make sense?
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Cut defense 50%. Raise taxes enough to eventually pay it off. Pay off the FED with greenbacks.
 
We absolutely need to curb military spending if we are going to get this deficit under control, including earmarks like paying for planes that the military has stated we do not need and they do not want just so you can "bring home the bacon" for your constituencies...

Crap, we could probably cut a crapton just by cutting that...
 
actually, I heard on the news that "pork" is down over 90% since the 2010 elections.....apparently the Tea Party has already been successful in that respect......
 
The 2012 Congressional Pig Book is a proverbial “good news, bad news” story. The good news is that, according to CAGW’s criteria, the number and cost of earmarks have decreased dramatically since fiscal year (FY) 2010, when the last Pig Book was published. The number has dropped by 98.3 percent, from 9,129 in FY 2010 to 152 in FY 2012, the fewest since CAGW published the first Congressional Pig Book in 1991. The cost has decreased by 80 percent, from $16.5 billion in FY 2010 to $3.3 billion in FY 2012, the lowest amount since 1992.
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http://www.cagw.org/newsroom/releases/2012/cagw-releases-2012.html
 
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