police video does not show zimmerman with injuries

I wonder what Martin's family is hiding?
As soon as it was publicized that he had been suspended from school, his family had his school records sealed.
Sounds to me like they're trying to protect someone who probably was acting like a thug; because if he's this innocent victim, like the left want everyone to believe, wouldn't his school record show what an upstanding young man he was?
 
Don Quixote said:
you are reaching, straining to defend zimmerman, why
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what i'm doing is trying to show everyone that they do not have all the facts and/or evidence and to stop assuming they already know what happened. nobody knows exactly what happened except zimmerman......for now. why people can't wait for this process to run it's course in 6 or 10 weeks while they can wait 12 months for a police investigation over a dog shooting is beyond me.

Don Quixote said:
you got a bloody nose during a football game where medical care was readily available, what about on the street where it takes a while to get care
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it was hockey. and i've had to call 911 for the wifes heart condition a few times. they get there pretty fast. within minutes when called.

Don Quixote said:
head injuries are among the bloodiest wounds a person can get, messy
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on this, I agree. and it does raise suspicion in my mind about why it doesn't look bloody. but then again, the video isn't great and if it was bloody, why the police didn't keep it for evidence.

Don Quixote said:
if zimmerman was as damaged as he claimed, where are the bandages or signs of wounds
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you don't bandage a broken nose, still bleeding or not.

Don Quixote said:
still too much is unknown as to what actually happened other than what he said (self-servingly) happened

where is the forensics data on martin's gun shot wound
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yes, still too much is unknown, so why is everyone rushing to judgement?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I wonder what Martin's family is hiding?
As soon as it was publicized that he had been suspended from school, his family had his school records sealed.
Sounds to me like they're trying to protect someone who probably was acting like a thug; because if he's this innocent victim, like the left want everyone to believe, wouldn't his school record show what an upstanding young man he was?
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If it needs to come out, it will come out in the trial.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I wonder what Martin's family is hiding?
As soon as it was publicized that he had been suspended from school, his family had his school records sealed.
Sounds to me like they're trying to protect someone who probably was acting like a thug; because if he's this innocent victim, like the left want everyone to believe, wouldn't his school record show what an upstanding young man he was?
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too much information is being leaked, confidential information
 
SmarterThanYou said:
what i'm doing is trying to show everyone that they do not have all the facts and/or evidence and to stop assuming they already know what happened. nobody knows exactly what happened except zimmerman......for now. why people can't wait for this process to run it's course in 6 or 10 weeks while they can wait 12 months for a police investigation over a dog shooting is beyond me.

it was hockey. and i've had to call 911 for the wifes heart condition a few times. they get there pretty fast. within minutes when called.

on this, I agree. and it does raise suspicion in my mind about why it doesn't look bloody. but then again, the video isn't great and if it was bloody, why the police didn't keep it for evidence.

you don't bandage a broken nose, still bleeding or not.

yes, still too much is unknown, so why is everyone rushing to judgement?
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even, it it is reset, the nose that is, do not medical types want to immobilize a reset broken nose

where are the emt records?

screw the police report
 
Don Quixote said:
because zimmerman killed an unarmed kid after stalking him instead of waiting for the cops to take care of the situation

So following a suspicious character is now stalking. :palm:

why did zimmerman follow the kid and then get out of his car to confront him

The 911 call said that the "kid" looked suspicious.

this would seem to void a self-defense claim

Not necessarily; unless it's a liberal kangaroo court.

still we need more data and are likely to not get it until after there is a trial, if there is one

Why do we need a trial? You and the liberals have already decided that he's guilty.

i think that the investigation was botched and blame the police and county state's attorney

Then why aren't you condemning them, instead of defending Martin's thuggish behavior?

also, why did the state's attorney decline to prosecute and why did the police refrain from investigating more

Shouldn't you ask the State's Attorney that and who said the Police refrained from investigating more?

normally, police do not like vigilante justice and resent it
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Since when is defending yourself from being attacked by a thug, vigilante justice?
 
Don Quixote said:
when did martin become a thug?

zimerman could have avoided the entire mess if he were not a wanna be cop and stayed in his vehicle and away from martin
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And Martin could have avoided the entire mess, if he wasn't a thug and not gone back to try to intimidate and then assault Zimmerman.
 
FACT:

Zimmerman first reports to 911 dispatch that Martin is coming towards him to "check him out"...then Zimmerman reports that Martin is "running away". Cops tell Zimmerman that he does NOT have to follow Martin, and Martin's girlfriend reports that Martin told her that a strange man was following him.

FACT: Zimmerman claims self defense, yet the chronology of the calls establishing that Zimmerman PURSUED Martin. If he had NOT done so, as instructed by the police dispatch, no confrontation would have ensued.

FACT: New video of Zimmerman being taken to local precinct does NOT show signs of the damaged nose or blood on his clothes that were alleged to have come from blows by Martin in an earlier press release by his lawyer

FACT: Neighborhood Watch groups are NOT to carry guns. So again the question remain as to why Zimmerman was not booked for this violation. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...borhood-watch-20120321,0,5554619.story?page=1

FACT: Zimmerman was arrested for a confrontation with a cop (non-violent) and did community service time to expunge that record. He also was instructed by a judge to stay away from his ex-girlfriend (and visa versa) after an altercation that landed them before the court. Why was this man issued a CCWP?

FACT: The lead detective wanted to book Zimmerman for manslaughter based on the evidence, but was counter-manded by the State Attorney. How do you determine the outcome of a trial BEFORE an investigation has gotten fully started? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...man-arrested-the-night-of-the-fatal-shooting/

More to follow.
 
Taichiliberal said:
FACT:

Zimmerman first reports to 911 dispatch that Martin is coming towards him to "check him out"...then Zimmerman reports that Martin is "running away". Cops tell Zimmerman that he does NOT have to follow Martin, and Martin's girlfriend reports that Martin told her that a strange man was following him.

FACT: Zimmerman claims self defense, yet the chronology of the calls establishing that Zimmerman PURSUED Martin. If he had NOT done so, as instructed by the police dispatch, no confrontation would have ensued.

FACT: New video of Zimmerman being taken to local precinct does NOT show signs of the damaged nose or blood on his clothes that were alleged to have come from blows by Martin in an earlier press release by his lawyer

FACT: Neighborhood Watch groups are NOT to carry guns. So again the question remain as to why Zimmerman was not booked for this violation. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...borhood-watch-20120321,0,5554619.story?page=1

FACT: Zimmerman was arrested for a confrontation with a cop (non-violent) and did community service time to expunge that record. He also was instructed by a judge to stay away from his ex-girlfriend (and visa versa) after an altercation that landed them before the court. Why was this man issued a CCWP?

FACT: The lead detective wanted to book Zimmerman for manslaughter based on the evidence, but was counter-manded by the State Attorney. How do you determine the outcome of a trial BEFORE an investigation has gotten fully started? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...man-arrested-the-night-of-the-fatal-shooting/

More to follow.
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FACT: After running away and Zimmerman losing sight of him; Martin returned, confronted Zimmerman, and then assaulted him.

FACT: If Martin hadn't tried to accost Zimmerman and take his weapon, Martin wouldn't have placed himself in mortal danger.

FACT: There is no proof that Zimmerman shot Martin, except for his own statement, and it is possible that Martin committed suicide with Zimmerman's gun.

FACT: Martin's behavior is similar to the same thuggish behavior that other criminals engage in.

FACT: Martin's been expelled from school, at least twice, and his parent's make the choice to seal his school records; to possibly hide more delinquent behavior.

FACT: The State Attny made a decision that there wasn't enough evidence to support an arrest warrent for Zimmerman.

Expect more slanted rhetoric to come from the left. :palm:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
FACT: After running away and Zimmerman losing sight of him; Martin returned, confronted Zimmerman, and then assaulted him.

FACT: If Martin hadn't tried to accost Zimmerman and take his weapon, Martin wouldn't have placed himself in mortal danger.

FACT: There is no proof that Zimmerman shot Martin, except for his own statement, and it is possible that Martin committed suicide with Zimmerman's gun.

FACT: Martin's behavior is similar to the same thuggish behavior that other criminals engage in.

FACT: Martin's been expelled from school, at least twice, and his parent's make the choice to seal his school records; to possibly hide more delinquent behavior.

FACT: The State Attny made a decision that there wasn't enough evidence to support an arrest warrent for Zimmerman.

Expect more slanted rhetoric to come from the left. :palm:
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sure, martin may have been a tough teenager, but he did not bring the gun to the fight

besides, being a teenager should not be a capital offense

what you are forgetting is that zimmerman had age a weight advantage thought that carrying a gun made him right and invincible (speculation)
 
Don Quixote said:
sure, martin may have been a tough teenager, but he did not bring the gun to the fight

besides, being a teenager should not be a capital offense

what you are forgetting is that zimmerman had age a weight advantage thought that carrying a gun made him right and invincible (speculation)
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Then maybe he shouldn't been trying to act like he was 10ft tall and bullet proof.

Unless you can prove that the reason he was shot, was because he was a teenager; then this is just a strawman.

We couild also speculate that maybe Martin was high on something and thought that he was invicible.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Then maybe he shouldn't been trying to act like he was 10ft tall and bullet proof.

Unless you can prove that the reason he was shot, was because he was a teenager; then this is just a strawman.

We couild also speculate that maybe Martin was high on something and thought that he was invicible.
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the tox screen run on martin showed no trace of drugs
 
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