liberals don't care about black men, just the agenda

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If you don't perceive how calling people "sheeple" and "morons" is alienating, while decrying their lack of interest in the issues you bring up, I don't know what to tell you.

Persuasive people like Ron Paul don't often stoop to insults, I've noticed.

You have some good points. Self-awareness just isn't one of them, I guess.
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and you never insult?

\\(())// said:
Doctor Dixie Doublewide, PhD; Emeritus George Wallace Chair in History, University of Alabubba...
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\\(())// said:
LOL, you're desperate.

You're a laughingstock.
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Rune said:
Another 4 minutes of my life I can never get back.
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I'll break it down:

STY seems to be unhappy that the people he routinely insults don't join him in condemning the injustices he brings to light on the forum.
 
Rune said:
In thread after thread, no less.
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I tried to give him some heartfelt advice. He often has a point, but his abrasiveness repels people who would agree with him if he didn't deride them.
 
\\(())// said:
If you don't perceive how calling people "sheeple" and "morons" is alienating, while decrying their lack of interest in the issues you bring up, I don't know what to tell you.

Persuasive people like Ron Paul don't often stoop to insults, I've noticed.

You have some good points. Self-awareness just isn't one of them, I guess.
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oh good god. most of you people call ron paul a nutcase no matter how persuasive he sounds. stop hypocritting.
 
none said:
the thread has already been hijacked by liberals like you. and your post has nothing to do with the thread. why is it you feel it is ok to hijack my threads, but not ok to comment on the liberal response in another thread?

wait...i already know the answer to that.
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Of course the Yurtard has ignored the fact that post #2...the very FIRST response to STY's OP...is a response from me that actually AGREES with STY about those stories needing more attention and in no way hijacks this thread...but the Yurtard just ignores that little fact because it might hinder his petulant whining about Liberals.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Of course the Yurtard has ignored the fact that post #2...the very FIRST response to STY's OP...is a response from me that actually AGREES with STY about those stories needing more attention and in no way hijacks this thread...but the Yurtard just ignores that little fact because it might hinder his petulant whining about Liberals.
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tff...the pussy can't answer the question:

why is it you feel it is ok to hijack my threads, but not ok to comment on the liberal response in another thread?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
liberals and media are all up in arms (pun intended) about the tragic killing of trayvon martin, so much so to the point where even the new black panther party has offered a $10k reward for the capture of george zimmerman. But I ask you liberals, where were you when Manuel Loggins was murdered by an Orange County Sheriff’s Deputy in the parking lot of San Clemente High School.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/10/local/la-me-marine-shot-20120210

The Orange County Sheriff's Deputy that shot Marine Sgt. Loggins, Darren Sandberg, is white, but since the initial report about the shooting had Deputy Sandberg claiming self defense citing Sgt Loggins 'irrational' behavior which included crashing through a gate and attempting to leave the scene. Within a day or so of the story becoming public, the story had undergone a critical revision: The Sheriff’s Office claimed that Loggins had to be shot in the interests of “the perceived safety of the children.” Sgt Loggins was unarmed with his two daughters, but a white man feared for his safety, so he shot at a SUV driving away from him and killed Sgt Loggins. no uproar or outcry of racism.

So zealous were the officers for the safety of two young girls who had just seen their father murdered in front of them that the department took them into custody held them incommunicado for thirteen hours while the official narrative was being worked out. In the words of the family’s attorney, “They just incarcerated them.”

Deputy Sandberg is back on patrol with no criminal charges filed and no administrative punishment whatsoever. His union, displaying its customary gift for arrogant self-preoccupation, insists Loggins was entirely to blame. “It is heartbreaking that Manuel Loggins created a situation that put his children in danger and ultimately cost him his life,” oozed police union spokesperson Tom Dominguez said. "It is unfortunate that his actions put his own children into immediate danger and resulted in his death."

Because agents of the liberals beloved state, police officers, said that it's the victims fault...then it's the victims fault. Neither Louis Farrakhan nor Al Sharpton reached out to the Loggins family, most likely because going up against the police union would only result in public backlash. As a gesture of solidarity with Trayvon, the Miami Heat basketball team was photographed wearing hooded sweatshirts, the “suspicious” attire the teenager was wearing when he was chased down and shot by George Zimmerman. The Sacramento Kings abstained from a similar symbolic display of sympathy for Manuel Loggins. Asked by a reporter to comment about the Trayvon Martin killing, Barack Obama, who pointed out is he had a son, the young man might resemble Trayvon. The President has yet to be asked to comment about the murder of Manuel Loggins – who is one of two black Marines to be murdered by police within the space of three months.

Last November 19, 68-year-old Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr. was slaughtered by police at his apartment in White Plains, New York. Chamberlain, an elderly man who suffered from a heart condition and several other ailments, was not a criminal suspect. He had inadvertently triggered a medical alert, which resulted in a visit by paramedics. The police, unfortunately, responded as well, and they quickly displayed their infallible gift for making matters worse.

Chamberlain ordered the police to leave. That was a lawful order the police are required to obey. They didn’t. Instead, the dozen officers who had formed a thugscrum outside Chamberlain’s door taunted and mocked the elderly man, eventually breaking down the door and invading his home.

Once inside, the police were confronted by a terrified old man who – as documented in video recovered from a Taser – was clad in boxer shorts, with his hands at his side. This dreadful specter was enough to trigger the “Officer Safety” reflex – practically anything will – and the heroes in blue shot him with a Taser and a beanbag gun before gunning him down.

The original story was that Chamberlain “came at the officers” with a butcher knife and – I’m not kidding – a hatchet. His son points out that his father’s heart was so weak that he couldn’t walk more than forty feet without resting. The initial account is difficult to reconcile with the footage captured by the Taser and security cameras. Furthermore, even if the old man had lunged at the cops, they had the duty to retreat: They had no legal or moral right to be in the home, and Chamberlain had the legal and moral right to evict them by force.

Long after the incident, the police rationalized that the invasion was necessary because they weren’t sure whether “anybody else inside was in danger.” This is a matter that could have been cleared up through use of an obscure piece of technology called a telephone, a remarkable instrument that could have been used to contact either Mr. Chamberlain or his son, who didn’t live far away. But this would have deprived the armored adolescents on the police force of an opportunity to bust down a door and impose themselves on someone who couldn’t fight back.

In the case of Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr., there is material evidence of racism at work: Recordings of the standoff captured racial epithets, including the “n-word,” hurled at the harmless old man by some of the officers involved in murdering him just a few minutes later. Chamberlain's son and his lawyers have reviewed the recordings, but the public has not been permitted to see them.

Nevertheless, the Tolerance Police – for some reason -- haven’t made the slaughter of Kenneth Chamberlain a cause celebre.

So another case of white men killing an unarmed black man and barely a whisper from the liberals.

One much-remarked detail in the killing of Trayvon Martin is the fact that the supposedly suspicious teenager was “armed” with Skittles and a can of iced tea. This summons memories of Jordan Miles, an 18-year-old from Pittsburgh who was nearly beaten to death on the street near his grandmother’s house two years ago.

His assailants claimed that Miles struck them as “suspicious” because he fled at their approach, and that they feared for their lives when he appeared to be armed. It turns out that his concealed “weapon” was a bottle of Mountain Dew. Miles, who stands 5’6” and weighs about 160 pounds, was swarmed by three large adult males, who slugged him, kicked him, and beat him with a club improvised by a tree branch. The attackers were police officers, who weren’t prosecuted or subjected to administrative punishment. Every week – perhaps every day – innocent young black men are beaten and killed by armed strangers who act with impunity, and often in circumstances quite similar to those in which Trayvon Martin was killed. The perpetrators of those assaults are police officers.


So what about it liberals? what makes you focus on this particular case of an apparent racially motivated murder for weeks on end, yet barely days for any of the others??????
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This story deserves to be bumped. I'm sure the lefties ignored every word and decided to burn the page down.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
liberals and media are all up in arms (pun intended) about the tragic killing of trayvon martin, so much so to the point where even the new black panther party has offered a $10k reward for the capture of george zimmerman. But I ask you liberals, where were you when Manuel Loggins was murdered by an Orange County Sheriff’s Deputy in the parking lot of San Clemente High School.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/10/local/la-me-marine-shot-20120210

The Orange County Sheriff's Deputy that shot Marine Sgt. Loggins, Darren Sandberg, is white, but since the initial report about the shooting had Deputy Sandberg claiming self defense citing Sgt Loggins 'irrational' behavior which included crashing through a gate and attempting to leave the scene. Within a day or so of the story becoming public, the story had undergone a critical revision: The Sheriff’s Office claimed that Loggins had to be shot in the interests of “the perceived safety of the children.” Sgt Loggins was unarmed with his two daughters, but a white man feared for his safety, so he shot at a SUV driving away from him and killed Sgt Loggins. no uproar or outcry of racism.

So zealous were the officers for the safety of two young girls who had just seen their father murdered in front of them that the department took them into custody held them incommunicado for thirteen hours while the official narrative was being worked out. In the words of the family’s attorney, “They just incarcerated them.”

Deputy Sandberg is back on patrol with no criminal charges filed and no administrative punishment whatsoever. His union, displaying its customary gift for arrogant self-preoccupation, insists Loggins was entirely to blame. “It is heartbreaking that Manuel Loggins created a situation that put his children in danger and ultimately cost him his life,” oozed police union spokesperson Tom Dominguez said. "It is unfortunate that his actions put his own children into immediate danger and resulted in his death."

Because agents of the liberals beloved state, police officers, said that it's the victims fault...then it's the victims fault. Neither Louis Farrakhan nor Al Sharpton reached out to the Loggins family, most likely because going up against the police union would only result in public backlash. As a gesture of solidarity with Trayvon, the Miami Heat basketball team was photographed wearing hooded sweatshirts, the “suspicious” attire the teenager was wearing when he was chased down and shot by George Zimmerman. The Sacramento Kings abstained from a similar symbolic display of sympathy for Manuel Loggins. Asked by a reporter to comment about the Trayvon Martin killing, Barack Obama, who pointed out is he had a son, the young man might resemble Trayvon. The President has yet to be asked to comment about the murder of Manuel Loggins – who is one of two black Marines to be murdered by police within the space of three months.

Last November 19, 68-year-old Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr. was slaughtered by police at his apartment in White Plains, New York. Chamberlain, an elderly man who suffered from a heart condition and several other ailments, was not a criminal suspect. He had inadvertently triggered a medical alert, which resulted in a visit by paramedics. The police, unfortunately, responded as well, and they quickly displayed their infallible gift for making matters worse.

Chamberlain ordered the police to leave. That was a lawful order the police are required to obey. They didn’t. Instead, the dozen officers who had formed a thugscrum outside Chamberlain’s door taunted and mocked the elderly man, eventually breaking down the door and invading his home.

Once inside, the police were confronted by a terrified old man who – as documented in video recovered from a Taser – was clad in boxer shorts, with his hands at his side. This dreadful specter was enough to trigger the “Officer Safety” reflex – practically anything will – and the heroes in blue shot him with a Taser and a beanbag gun before gunning him down.

The original story was that Chamberlain “came at the officers” with a butcher knife and – I’m not kidding – a hatchet. His son points out that his father’s heart was so weak that he couldn’t walk more than forty feet without resting. The initial account is difficult to reconcile with the footage captured by the Taser and security cameras. Furthermore, even if the old man had lunged at the cops, they had the duty to retreat: They had no legal or moral right to be in the home, and Chamberlain had the legal and moral right to evict them by force.

Long after the incident, the police rationalized that the invasion was necessary because they weren’t sure whether “anybody else inside was in danger.” This is a matter that could have been cleared up through use of an obscure piece of technology called a telephone, a remarkable instrument that could have been used to contact either Mr. Chamberlain or his son, who didn’t live far away. But this would have deprived the armored adolescents on the police force of an opportunity to bust down a door and impose themselves on someone who couldn’t fight back.

In the case of Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr., there is material evidence of racism at work: Recordings of the standoff captured racial epithets, including the “n-word,” hurled at the harmless old man by some of the officers involved in murdering him just a few minutes later. Chamberlain's son and his lawyers have reviewed the recordings, but the public has not been permitted to see them.

Nevertheless, the Tolerance Police – for some reason -- haven’t made the slaughter of Kenneth Chamberlain a cause celebre.

So another case of white men killing an unarmed black man and barely a whisper from the liberals.

One much-remarked detail in the killing of Trayvon Martin is the fact that the supposedly suspicious teenager was “armed” with Skittles and a can of iced tea. This summons memories of Jordan Miles, an 18-year-old from Pittsburgh who was nearly beaten to death on the street near his grandmother’s house two years ago.

His assailants claimed that Miles struck them as “suspicious” because he fled at their approach, and that they feared for their lives when he appeared to be armed. It turns out that his concealed “weapon” was a bottle of Mountain Dew. Miles, who stands 5’6” and weighs about 160 pounds, was swarmed by three large adult males, who slugged him, kicked him, and beat him with a club improvised by a tree branch. The attackers were police officers, who weren’t prosecuted or subjected to administrative punishment. Every week – perhaps every day – innocent young black men are beaten and killed by armed strangers who act with impunity, and often in circumstances quite similar to those in which Trayvon Martin was killed. The perpetrators of those assaults are police officers.


So what about it liberals? what makes you focus on this particular case of an apparent racially motivated murder for weeks on end, yet barely days for any of the others??????
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If I talked about Jordan Miles once, I've talked about him a dozen times. And Johnny Gammage.

If you posted about Manuel Loggins before, I don't recall it. But it was a travesty, like the others. I write letters or sign petitions about incidents like this that are brought to my attention. It has nothing to do with picking and choosing what to focus on.
 
christiefan915 said:
If I talked about Jordan Miles once, I've talked about him a dozen times. And Johnny Gammage.

If you posted about Manuel Loggins before, I don't recall it. But it was a travesty, like the others. I write letters or sign petitions about incidents like this that are brought to my attention. It has nothing to do with picking and choosing what to focus on.
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I am the same way. I will protest all injustice when it is brought to my attention. The Internet has made it more possible than ever. Cell phone and digital reorders can record police brutality, and other social injustice. Trayvon's case is one that spread quickly because of the Internet.
 
Rana said:
The Internet has made it more possible than ever. Cell phone and digital reorders can record police brutality, and other social injustice. Trayvon's case is one that spread quickly because of the Internet.
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And just as quickly seems to have fallen apart. Everyone has been kicking up smoke and speculation that you can litterally choose your version of events and have it supported. It's just crazy. If you like Trayvon, you can read about how Zimmerman had priors, had been calling the police, was looking for trouble and called Trayvon a coon. If you like Zimmerman you can read about Trayvon's suspensions from school for drugs, possession of burglary tools and women's jewelry, and grafiti, you can learn how zimmerman tutored black kids for free and how he had turned his life around. It's all crazy, and the truth is gone, It has died a most unpleasant and undignified death.
 
Disillusioned said:
And just as quickly seems to have fallen apart. Everyone has been kicking up smoke and speculation that you can litterally choose your version of events and have it supported. It's just crazy. If you like Trayvon, you can read about how Zimmerman had priors, had been calling the police, was looking for trouble and called Trayvon a coon. If you like Zimmerman you can read about Trayvon's suspensions from school for drugs, possession of burglary tools and women's jewelry, and grafiti, you can learn how zimmerman tutored black kids for free and how he had turned his life around. It's all crazy, and the truth is gone, It has died a most unpleasant and undignified death.
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None of which changes the fact that zim hunted him down and killed him.
 
Rune said:
None of which changes the fact that zim hunted him down and killed him.
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And yet, all the nice conflicting stories. About Trayvon acting suspicious, attacking zimmerman when confronted. I don't know the truth, and probably the only people who do, are zimmerman and the deceased trayvon.
 
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