The facts about drilling our way to cheap gas

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\\(())// said:
Still claiming that high prices are Obama's fault, ignoring the increased offshore demand for oil which causes US consumers to pay more as competition heats up?

Poor PiMP.
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Okay... so now, the prices are high because all the other nations competing for the oil, which we aren't drilling more of? How does any of this make sense, even to a pinhead liberal idiot such as yourself? The whole POINT you are missing here is, if we drill more domestically, we don't need as much from foreign sources. See, I know you believe there is some sort of global authority who makes everyone pool all their oil and sell it on the markets, but that isn't actually how it works. Do you believe Saudi Arabia pays what we pay for a barrel of oil? Oil producers sell their oil on the world markets because they make more money that way, because the demand worldwide is huge. But this is the beauty of a domestic drilling policy targeted at eliminating foreign dependency, we don't have to sell it on the world oil markets, we can sell it to refineries here and make gas, cheaply...or better yet, sell it to Mexico and let them make the gas for us! Either way, our having the oil supply benefits us MUCH MORE than NOT having the oil supply...even an idiot like you should understand that, it's not that hard.
 
Dixie said:
Yeah, 6 years outta what? 70? 80? 140? For the most part, the past century, congress has been dominated by Democrats. Next time, could you try a little harder to make my points? Thanks!

Yeah... right... homie don't play that shit. You can find the information, it's out there. Google is your friend! MORON!
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What. A. Surprise.

First, Dr Disingneuous pretends like he doesn't know what kind of time frame he himself was discussing...just another typical Rightie bullshit stunt to cover for what he KNOWS are outrageous lies.

Then the two-faced Rightie tells me he won't provide the corroboration to back up his allegations, and that is all they are until YOU provide some proof.

It ain't MY job to go searching for the info...Y-O-U made the allegation...Y-O-U back it up.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
What. A. Surprise.

First, Dr Disingneuous pretends like he doesn't know what kind of time frame he himself was discussing...just another typical Rightie bullshit stunt to cover for what he KNOWS are outrageous lies.

Then the two-faced Rightie tells me he won't provide the corroboration to back up his allegations, and that is all they are until YOU provide some proof.

It ain't MY job to go searching for the info...Y-O-U made the allegation...Y-O-U back it up.
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Y-O-U are the MORON... Y-O-U go FUCK YOURSELF!
 
Dixie said:
Okay... so now, the prices are high because all the other nations competing for the oil, which we aren't drilling more of? How does any of this make sense, even to a pinhead liberal idiot such as yourself? The whole POINT you are missing here is, if we drill more domestically, we don't need as much from foreign sources. See, I know you believe there is some sort of global authority who makes everyone pool all their oil and sell it on the markets, but that isn't actually how it works. Do you believe Saudi Arabia pays what we pay for a barrel of oil? Oil producers sell their oil on the world markets because they make more money that way, because the demand worldwide is huge. But this is the beauty of a domestic drilling policy targeted at eliminating foreign dependency, we don't have to sell it on the world oil markets, we can sell it to refineries here and make gas, cheaply...or better yet, sell it to Mexico and let them make the gas for us! Either way, our having the oil supply benefits us MUCH MORE than NOT having the oil supply...even an idiot like you should understand that, it's not that hard.
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We are drilling more, Dix, more than we did when Bush was boss...


http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production



Seasonally adjusted US oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago.

But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s.

Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly one-third.

If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared.

Instead, they went down by nearly a dollar.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...-gas-prices/4F1540zDGa8eawUsvyITeN/story.html
 
\\(())// said:
We are drilling more, Dix, more than we did when Bush was boss...


http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production



Seasonally adjusted US oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago.

But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s.

Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly one-third.

If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared.

Instead, they went down by nearly a dollar.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...-gas-prices/4F1540zDGa8eawUsvyITeN/story.html
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What's that you say?

You've got ACTUAL FACTS that prove Dix was full of shit as usual?

You've got ACTUAL CORROBORATION to back up your allegations?

Funny, but Dix wouldn't or COULDN'T do the same.
 
More substanceless bloviating from the Right...they get pwned so often, and offer so little....
 
\\(())// said:
We are drilling more, Dix, more than we did when Bush was boss...
http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production

Seasonally adjusted US oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago.
But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s. Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly one-third. If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared. Instead, they went down by nearly a dollar. http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...-gas-prices/4F1540zDGa8eawUsvyITeN/story.html
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OMG at the outright lying propaganda! The reason drilling production is up, is BECAUSE of Bush! Remember that old line you've used about how long it takes for newly drilled oil to come online? Well... here is some of that oil coming on line from when Bush was president and authorized it! At the CURRENT time, our CURRENT president, is doing everything he and the EPA can, to PROHIBIT drilling! The number of new leases is down dramatically since Obama took over. And you are citing oil production from a time period where Democrats either controlled Congress, the White House, or both... and at which time, the environmentalist nuts and warmers had us all in a tizzy to cut oil production and drilling, not increase it. A time where we even had republicans like Newt Gingrich and John McCain jumping on the warmer bandwagon... and most importantly, DIDN'T have $4 a gallon gas prices!
 
Dixie said:
OMG at the outright lying propaganda! The reason drilling production is up, is BECAUSE of Bush! Remember that old line you've used about how long it takes for newly drilled oil to come online? Well... here is some of that oil coming on line from when Bush was president and authorized it! At the CURRENT time, our CURRENT president, is doing everything he and the EPA can, to PROHIBIT drilling! The number of new leases is down dramatically since Obama took over. And you are citing oil production from a time period where Democrats either controlled Congress, the White House, or both... and at which time, the environmentalist nuts and warmers had us all in a tizzy to cut oil production and drilling, not increase it. A time where we even had republicans like Newt Gingrich and John McCain jumping on the warmer bandwagon... and most importantly, DIDN'T have $4 a gallon gas prices!
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Cite the lie, Dixo...domestic oil production is higher now than it's been in years. Is that a lie?
 
Dixie said:
OMG at the outright lying propaganda! The reason drilling production is up, is BECAUSE of Bush! Remember that old line you've used about how long it takes for newly drilled oil to come online? Well... here is some of that oil coming on line from when Bush was president and authorized it! At the CURRENT time, our CURRENT president, is doing everything he and the EPA can, to PROHIBIT drilling! The number of new leases is down dramatically since Obama took over. And you are citing oil production from a time period where Democrats either controlled Congress, the White House, or both... and at which time, the environmentalist nuts and warmers had us all in a tizzy to cut oil production and drilling, not increase it. A time where we even had republicans like Newt Gingrich and John McCain jumping on the warmer bandwagon... and most importantly, DIDN'T have $4 a gallon gas prices!
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Well...I'd ask you to cite some corroborating evidence to back up those "allegations"...but as you've clearly stated...you don't do that, now do you.

And without corroboration it's just another outlandish Dixie lie.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Well...I'd ask you to cite some corroborating evidence to back up those "allegations"...but as you've clearly stated...you don't do that, now do you. And without corroboration it's just another outlandish Dixie lie.
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And it will followed by more Dix-lies, replete with lots of words in capitals and plenty of exclamation points, but no facts.


Notice Dix-lie's claim that gas wasn't $4 a gallon when Bush was wearing those jeans....


Unfortunately for Dix-lie, the facts are here:



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http://www.GasBuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?city1=USA Average&city2=&city3=&crude=n&tme=72&units=us
 
\\(())// said:
We are drilling more, Dix, more than we did when Bush was boss...


http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production



Seasonally adjusted US oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago.

But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s.

Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly one-third.

If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared.

Instead, they went down by nearly a dollar.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...-gas-prices/4F1540zDGa8eawUsvyITeN/story.html
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oops......the poster with a name like a badly combed crewcut forgot that oil production on land over which Obama has authority is down 40% since he was elected.....
 
\\(())// said:
Notice Dix-lie's claim that gas wasn't $4 a gallon when Bush was wearing those jeans....
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thank god he lifted the restrictions on domestic production and solved that problem.....I wonder why Obama was stupid enough to reinstate those restrictions.....I wonder why the poster with a name like a badly combed crewcut doesn't have the balls to deal with that fact......
 
Yet US oil production is the highest it's been in years, so PiMP's "blame Obama" theory must be altered. Now it must go something like this: Even though US oil production is the highest it's been in years, due to Obama's refusal to allow indiscriminate drilling any and everywhere, gas prices are all his fault (as long as they're high, that is).

Poor PiMP.
 
\\(())// said:
Yet US oil production is the highest it's been in years, so PiMP's "blame Obama" theory must be altered.
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why on earth would you think I'm blaming Obama for something.....I've said all along it's only coincidence that prices went down when Bush did the right thing and back up again when Obama screwed it up.......nobody in their right mind would draw the conclusion that removing restrictions on production would increase supply so that it could keep up with demand.....I mean sure, Obama has managed to force domestic production on public lands down by 40%, but the stuff he can't control has increased so rapidly that it made up for it.....and all those folks that lost their jobs when he shut down oil production in the Gulf for all those months were at least able to find work up in Canada......so there's no reason to blame Obama.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
why on earth would you think I'm blaming Obama for something.....I've said all along it's only coincidence that prices went down when Bush did the right thing and back up again when Obama screwed it up.......nobody in their right mind would draw the conclusion that removing restrictions on production would increase supply so that it could keep up with demand.....I mean sure, Obama has managed to force domestic production on public lands down by 40%, but the stuff he can't control has increased so rapidly that it made up for it.....and all those folks that lost their jobs when he shut down oil production in the Gulf for all those months were at least able to find work up in Canada......so there's no reason to blame Obama.....
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So you confess that you cannot substantiate the claim that Obama is responsible for fluctuations in gas prices?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....you know, for a troll, you're pretty light weight......I confess I am prepared to ridicule you at any opportunity.....
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So cannot substantiate the claim that Obama is responsible for fluctuations in gas prices and instead resort to substanceless ad-hominems?
 
\\(())// said:
So cannot substantiate the claim that Obama is responsible for fluctuations in gas prices and instead resort to substanceless ad-hominems?
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having done so several times I am forced to use ad hominem to relieve the boredom that comes from repeating myself.........
 
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