America the Police state part II.

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wiseones2cents

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I was recently told about some bill that Obama passed(the NDAA). Basically it gives them the right to hold Americans and foreigners indefinitely. And of course putting the screws on Iran.

Apparently they are setting up Fema camps(concentration camps) all over America to hold Americans. Are they preparing to squash any uprisings that may develop(Like OWS)?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/exclusive-government-activating-fema-camps-across-u-s.html

Then I hear things like this.

http://news.yahoo.com/cops-ready-war-094500010.html

Scary stuff.

Not to mention the H.R.666 something Newt Gingrich(a Republican supported).

I can only post 2 links so google this.

H.R. 666 and the Assault on the Bill of Rights


Wednesday, 24 December 2008 14:45

by Gun Owners of America
Summary: On February 8, 1995, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 666 by a vote of 289-142. This bill, along with its companion S. 54, will allow evidence seized from otherwise illegal searches to be included in a trial if the officers can show an "objectively reasonable belief" that they were acting in "good faith." (Another bill, S. 3, is much more liberal in allowing illegally obtained evidence to be included at trial. That is, the bill does not require that the evidence must be obtained in "good faith."


Something sinister this way comes.....

What are your thoughts?
 
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1) it won't happen here
2) if it does, they'll just go after the right wing loonies with guns who hate the government
3) the courts won't let them do it
4) obama would never arrest americans, he said so himself
5) civilians could not stop them if they wanted to anyway, so we might as well just obey them like we're supposed to and all will be well

did i miss any of the sheeple arguments?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
1) it won't happen here
2) if it does, they'll just go after the right wing loonies with guns who hate the government
3) the courts won't let them do it
4) obama would never arrest americans, he said so himself
5) civilians could not stop them if they wanted to anyway, so we might as well just obey them like we're supposed to and all will be well

did i miss any of the sheeple arguments?
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1) It's happening

2) Republican Politicians are plotting to disarm the civilians. Look up the Hr.666 bill.

3)Martial Law overides the courts. Look at the last video I posted.

4)Politicians lie

5)As long as the civilians have their guns, they outnumber them.

But seriously? How do the elites plan to pull this off? They'd have to brainwash the people into believing that they are doing it to protect the citizens. When all it is, is the corrupted wealthy trying to hold on to their power.

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy”

James Madison
 
wiseones2cents said:
1)But seriously? How do the elites plan to pull this off? They'd have to brainwash the people into believing that they are doing it to protect the citizens. When all it is, is the corrupted wealthy trying to hold on to their power.
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history over the last 90 years has shown the feds that all they need to do is separate us in to groups and we'll be easy pickings. go after the militia members and the 'non violent' will stay meek and quiet. then go after another smallish group, the rest of them will stay meek and quiet. think 'first they came for the jews, and i said nothing because i'm not a jew'.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
history over the last 90 years has shown the feds that all they need to do is separate us in to groups and we'll be easy pickings. go after the militia members and the 'non violent' will stay meek and quiet. then go after another smallish group, the rest of them will stay meek and quiet. think 'first they came for the jews, and i said nothing because i'm not a jew'.
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Well that is their greatest tactic. Divide and conquer. Look at what they have done to religion and politics......

Still I dont see them getting away with this, too many people are catching on(even despite their mis-information propaganda) thanks to the internet. But I hear they are working on that too. Restricting internet like the Chinese. I think it's called SOPA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
 
wiseones2cents said:
Well that is their greatest tactic. Divide and conquer. Look at what they have done to religion and politics......

Still I dont see them getting away with this, too many people are catching on(even despite their mis-information propaganda) thanks to the internet. But I hear they are working on that too. Restricting internet like the Chinese. I think it's called SOPA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
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it's part of the process. the feds need the power to control all communication, they have almost all control of firearms, and for decades they've been brainwashing the people to believe in a duty to submit and not resist. there are two major problems that any uprising will face, should it happen.

1) collaborators like apple, mott, dune, and poet, people who worship government authority over them and will gladly rat out any civilian opposition to a government that even remotely appears to be promoting their own agenda

2) failing to maintain effective guerilla tactics as well as decisive actions with no pity or remorse.
 
wiseones2cents said:
1) It's happening

2) Republican Politicians are plotting to disarm the civilians. Look up the Hr.666 bill.

3)Martial Law overides the courts. Look at the last video I posted.

4)Politicians lie

5)As long as the civilians have their guns, they outnumber them.

But seriously? How do the elites plan to pull this off? They'd have to brainwash the people into believing that they are doing it to protect the citizens. When all it is, is the corrupted wealthy trying to hold on to their power.

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy”

James Madison
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We're also getting ready to invade Kanada and then send the surviving Kanadians back to England, to increase the British gene pool.
 
wiseones2cents said:
I was recently told about some bill that Obama passed(the NDAA). Basically it gives them the right to hold Americans and foreigners indefinitely. And of course putting the screws on Iran.

Apparently they are setting up Fema camps(concentration camps) all over America to hold Americans. Are they preparing to squash any uprisings that may develop(Like OWS)?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/exclusive-government-activating-fema-camps-across-u-s.html

Then I hear things like this.

http://news.yahoo.com/cops-ready-war-094500010.html

Scary stuff.

Not to mention the H.R.666 something Newt Gingrich(a Republican supported).

I can only post 2 links so google this.

H.R. 666 and the Assault on the Bill of Rights


Wednesday, 24 December 2008 14:45

by Gun Owners of America
Summary: On February 8, 1995, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 666 by a vote of 289-142. This bill, along with its companion S. 54, will allow evidence seized from otherwise illegal searches to be included in a trial if the officers can show an "objectively reasonable belief" that they were acting in "good faith." (Another bill, S. 3, is much more liberal in allowing illegally obtained evidence to be included at trial. That is, the bill does not require that the evidence must be obtained in "good faith."


Something sinister this way comes.....

What are your thoughts?
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I wonder if this has anything to do with the impending disclosure of aliens.

 
SmarterThanYou said:
it's part of the process. the feds need the power to control all communication, they have almost all control of firearms, and for decades they've been brainwashing the people to believe in a duty to submit and not resist. there are two major problems that any uprising will face, should it happen.

1) collaborators like apple, mott, dune, and poet, people who worship government authority over them and will gladly rat out any civilian opposition to a government that even remotely appears to be promoting their own agenda

2) failing to maintain effective guerilla tactics as well as decisive actions with no pity or remorse.
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THIS!
 
SmarterThanYou said:
it's part of the process. the feds need the power to control all communication, they have almost all control of firearms, and for decades they've been brainwashing the people to believe in a duty to submit and not resist. there are two major problems that any uprising will face, should it happen.

1) collaborators like apple, mott, dune, and poet, people who worship government authority over them and will gladly rat out any civilian opposition to a government that even remotely appears to be promoting their own agenda

2) failing to maintain effective guerilla tactics as well as decisive actions with no pity or remorse.
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I am a collaborator you lying pussy. Go fuck yourself.
If you were ever going to act, you would have already.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
it's part of the process. the feds need the power to control all communication, they have almost all control of firearms, and for decades they've been brainwashing the people to believe in a duty to submit and not resist. there are two major problems that any uprising will face, should it happen.

1) collaborators like apple, mott, dune, and poet, people who worship government authority over them and will gladly rat out any civilian opposition to a government that even remotely appears to be promoting their own agenda

2) failing to maintain effective guerilla tactics as well as decisive actions with no pity or remorse.
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Why would I support any group opposing government when that group doesn't give a damn about me? Are they going to build roads? Are they going to help me receive medical attention if I'm unable?

It's not a matter of believing in a duty to submit. It's based on the same beliefs the opposers hold: "What's in it for me?" Why would I support a group that doesn't gave a damn about anyone but themselves who are trying to disrupt a group who will help me, if necessary? When the choice is between living like an animal, governed by the law of the jungle, or living in a society, governed by laws of civilization, the choice is clear.

So, tell us, why would the average person support a group of "Waco Wackos"?
 
apple0154 said:
Why would I support any group opposing government when that group doesn't give a damn about me? Are they going to build roads? Are they going to help me receive medical attention if I'm unable?

It's not a matter of believing in a duty to submit. It's based on the same beliefs the opposers hold: "What's in it for me?" Why would I support a group that doesn't gave a damn about anyone but themselves who are trying to disrupt a group who will help me, if necessary? When the choice is between living like an animal, governed by the law of the jungle, or living in a society, governed by laws of civilization, the choice is clear.

So, tell us, why would the average person support a group of "Waco Wackos"?
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tell us, why would you oppose a group that believes in supporting and protecting your individual freedoms and rights? you oppose them because their belief would force you to be responsible for yourself, something you vehemently oppose, thus you transfer your responsibility to government.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
tell us, why would you oppose a group that believes in supporting and protecting your individual freedoms and rights? you oppose them because their belief would force you to be responsible for yourself, something you vehemently oppose, thus you transfer your responsibility to government.
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STY, Starting to thin you're not happy unless you're "being oppressed" it's amazing how often and how easily people can "infringe on your rights".
 
Disillusioned said:
STY, Starting to thin you're not happy unless you're "being oppressed" it's amazing how often and how easily people can "infringe on your rights".
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don't think, it's bad for you and makes you look stupid.

the problem with most people is they don't believe in the police state or oppression unless they are actually experiencing it firsthand. that's too bad, because by the time it does happen to you, it will be about a day late.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
it's part of the process. the feds need the power to control all communication, they have almost all control of firearms, and for decades they've been brainwashing the people to believe in a duty to submit and not resist. there are two major problems that any uprising will face, should it happen.

1) collaborators like apple, mott, dune, and poet, people who worship government authority over them and will gladly rat out any civilian opposition to a government that even remotely appears to be promoting their own agenda

2) failing to maintain effective guerilla tactics as well as decisive actions with no pity or remorse.
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Especially via religion where the Gospel states to be subjected to authorities. Though the wolves in sheep's clothing do that to keep the masses in subjection to a corrupt rulership, they too profit from.

If you watch the last video? They are training clergy from the areas to calm people down in case huge revolts emerged against the government. Using Scripture.

Good news on the internet front. We may be winning this battle. We cannot allow them to start restricting the flow of information on the net. They may start with some noble cause but they usually end up expanding and controlling.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-online-piracy-bill-headed-major-makeover-222324774.html
 
SmarterThanYou said:
tell us, why would you oppose a group that believes in supporting and protecting your individual freedoms and rights? you oppose them because their belief would force you to be responsible for yourself, something you vehemently oppose, thus you transfer your responsibility to government.
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It's no more transferring responsibility than having the power company supply electricity. Or the cable company. Or the phone company.

I don't want to have to climb on my roof to install a TV antenna any more than I want to burn candles or use smoke signals to order a pizza.

Progress is about having to do less. Lessening man's burden. I don't want to have to hunt for dinner or gather nuts and berries. It's 2012. I'm waiting for the Annunaki.

 
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