Rep. Barney Frank Educates George Will and Paul Ryan on Marijuana Legalization

[Don Quixote]

Ridiculous. We have the best public education system in the world and it the envy of the entire world. You're living in lala land dude.

sorry, but we rank (i think 10th), finland is number 1 and the bill gates foundation is trying to find out why and experiment with it and other forms of better education to try to duplicate them here

cnn had a special on it and it was most interesting

we spend more than any other nation but with poorer results

one thing that is known is that parental involvement is golden, but difficult where both parents work more than one job

can we say inequity of wealth

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Ridiculous. We have the best public education system in the world and it the envy of the entire world. You're living in lala land dude.

say what? if this country has the best public education system in the world, this world is fucked. that or you're wearing scarlet blinders up where you're at. I see way too many kids in texas and illinois who couldn't find a state on a US map, or tell me where pakistan is. algebra is a foreign language to them, not math. history is an outdated concept because the PUBLIC (government run) education system does not want them to know history before the civil war.

I think you need to check who's in la la land.

 

[Don Quixote]

and yet everything the feds touch, seems to get worse. definition of insanity, right?

your public education system example shows that to be true.

not everything, the states have to implement some of the fed advances, but bungle them of corrupt them

one of the many problems the feds have is the amount of corruption associated with federal programs at local and state levels

 

[Don Quixote]

new thread

if we are going to get into education, we need a new thread

same if we are going to get into libertarianism

 

[SmarterthanYou]

not everything, the states have to implement some of the fed advances, but bungle them of corrupt them

one of the many problems the feds have is the amount of corruption associated with federal programs at local and state levels

and a major part of that issue is we the people. public policy gets created to insulate those in office or administrative positions. transparency is done away with and we go on our merry little ways because most of us have been brainwashed to trust our government, since WE are the government. apathy, plain and simple.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

you've thrown out this theory before and it's sheer crap.

there are CERTAIN things the central government is supposed to do and regulate, that's it. no more. you've allowed the central government to become so bloated and full of bureaucracy, that there isn't anything it does well or more effectively than the private sector.

You're completely wrong and you don't know what you're talking about or we wouldn't have a central government. The reason for government is that there are things that the public sector just cannot do well. Again, what you are preaching is anarchy. Pure and simple.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

i hope so

gads what a canard

Please, DO go on.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

say what? if this country has the best public education system in the world, this world is fucked. that or you're wearing scarlet blinders up where you're at. I see way too many kids in texas and illinois who couldn't find a state on a US map, or tell me where pakistan is. algebra is a foreign language to them, not math. history is an outdated concept because the PUBLIC (government run) education system does not want them to know history before the civil war.

I think you need to check who's in la la land.

I can speak first hand that at least when it comes to math, it's taught HORRIBLY. I barely passed my college algebra class, but I can calculate ballistic trajectories and carbon equivalency in my fucking head. Explain that shit.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

You're completely wrong and you don't know what you're talking about or we wouldn't have a central government. The reason for government is that there are things that the public sector just cannot do well. Again, what you are preaching is anarchy. Pure and simple.

Calling for government to do things is anarchy? And you say public schools don't suck when you can't even differentiate between anarchy and government?

Well, no one would question that you're from Ohio.

 

[Don Quixote]

That isn't quite true. A portion of responsibility lies in understanding consequences. However, it is my position in a free society laws should be made only if there are direct victims.

In this case. I rob you, I should be sent to jail. I buy some smoke, light myself up, forget the football game and eat a bunch of Cheetos, not so much.

but look at all the leo/lea positions that would be freed up to solve other crimes - oh no, what would we do without the dea...

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You're completely wrong and you don't know what you're talking about or we wouldn't have a central government. The reason for government is that there are things that the public sector just cannot do well. Again, what you are preaching is anarchy. Pure and simple.

no, it's not. only in your mind because you hate libertarians. it's cool, you're entitled to your opinion.

the reason for central government is there needs to be a uniform policy for the union to have. it's not because it can do things that the private sector just cannot do. what i am preaching is limited and restricted government. pure and simple.

 

[Don Quixote]

Dude....Rana has survived cancer, Alaska winters and Sarah Palin as her Governor......I wouldnt' fuck with her if I was you.

go go go rana, i only survived cancer

 

[Don Quixote]

Please, DO go on.

are you referring only to this nation or do you include others

if you include others, try the vatican

or try to guess just how much influence the new york cardinal has on new york government

try scientology

try the catholic church

try mormonism

to name a few

there are states in the south were you cannot hold public jobs if you are an avowed athiest

 

[Mott the Hoople]

no, it's not. only in your mind because you hate libertarians. it's cool, you're entitled to your opinion.

the reason for central government is there needs to be a uniform policy for the union to have. it's not because it can do things that the private sector just cannot do. what i am preaching is limited and restricted government. pure and simple.

Oh don't go getting emotional on me. I don't hate Libertarians and you are preaching anarchy.

I really do appreciate many of their views but facts are facts dude. Libertarians have never demonstrated the leadership required to build a ruling coalition nor have they ever demonstrated that their theories on governance are viable. Until they do and can convince people otherwise you're going to just have to live with those criticisms which harkens back to my main point. I do not know of a form of governance based on any other philosophy then a utilitarian philosophy that has proven to be a workable governing philosophy.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

you're basing your view on a youtube video of somalia. limited and restricted government is not anarchy.

 

[The Dude]

Thread hijacking GED'rs

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Thread hijacking GED'rs

Says the stoner groaner...

 

[The Dude]

Says the stoner groaner...

Pussy sniper afraid to talk about himself. I'm a man, puss slam away with the stoner jokes.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Pussy sniper afraid to talk about himself. I'm a man, puss slam away with the stoner jokes.

You'd suck Barney's dick if he'd voted to legalize pot, don't lie, stoner groaner.

 

[The Dude]

You'd suck Barney's dick if he'd voted to legalize pot, don't lie, stoner groaner.

Just cause you did, I'll stick with your mom sucking my dick while you play video games.