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Aoxomoxoa said:
It's true that Arafat was born in Cairo, however his father came from Gaza and his mother from Jerusalem. Holy shit, Jews that have lived in Europe for a 1000 years claim to have a prima facie right to live in Judea and Samaria, yet evicted Palestinians or whatever you choose to call them have no rights?
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I never said they have no rights? Are you hearing voices?
 
Alias said:
Rana and her pals are just plain ignorant. Nothing else.
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Talk about ignorant:
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noun, plural ox·y·mo·ra  [ok-si-mawr-uh, -mohr-uh] Show IPA, ox·y·mor·ons. Rhetoric .
a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”

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Alias said:
What is this scripture talking about?

"“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh"
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You tell me. And don't forget about context.

Matthew 19
Divorce
1 When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19&version=NIV
 
christiefan915 said:
Talk about ignorant:
ox·y·mo·ron
   [ok-si-mawr-on, -mohr-] Show IPA
noun, plural ox·y·mo·ra  [ok-si-mawr-uh, -mohr-uh] Show IPA, ox·y·mor·ons. Rhetoric .
a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”

Related forms
ox·y·mo·ron·ic  [ok-see-muh-ron-ik] Show IPA, adjective
Dictionary.com Unabridged
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Do you believe Jesus is a bigot? He said marriage was a man and a woman.
 
christiefan915 said:
You tell me. And don't forget about context.

Matthew 19
Divorce
1 When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19&version=NIV
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In that passage Jesus says marriage is a man and a woman. Is Jesus a bigot?
 
Alias said:
Many Jews don't follow the Torah and follow Jesus. Your Rabbi is misinformed as are you.
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I suppose this rabbi doesn't know what he's talking about, either. Why don't you email him your learned opinion (ha ha) on Ask the Rabbi?

For 2,000 years Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?
by Rabbi Shraga Simmons

One of the most common questions we receive at Aish.com is: "Why don't Jews believe in Jesus?" Let's understand why ― not in order to disparage other religions, but rather to clarify the Jewish position.

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

1. Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:

Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world ― on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html
 
Rana said:
No wrong, it is not a race, no matter how mny times you wish it to be. I am Catholic, I was born Catholic, you have to have one member of the family be Cathoilc in order to be Catholic, otherwise you are a convert. Catholicism is not a race. It is a religion. Being a Jew is hereditary only culturally, it has nothing to do with race, sorry.

Like the Rabbi said, you can not be a Jew for Jesus. You can be a former Jew for Jesus, but you have converted to Christianity if you believe in Jesus.

I think it is funny how you call me an old woman when you are only six years younger than I. I guess it is necessary to feel better about yourself. Projecting, again.
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The mind boggles. Maybe these theological geniuses will teach us about the Catholic race, the Protestant race, the Muslim race, the Hindu race, etc.
 
christiefan915 said:
I suppose this rabbi doesn't know what he's talking about, either. Why don't you email him your learned opinion (ha ha) on Ask the Rabbi?

For 2,000 years Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?
by Rabbi Shraga Simmons

One of the most common questions we receive at Aish.com is: "Why don't Jews believe in Jesus?" Let's understand why ― not in order to disparage other religions, but rather to clarify the Jewish position.

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

1. Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:

Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world ― on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html
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Many Jews have become Christians. Even Jewish Rabbis.

http://www.israelinprophecy.org/ENGLISH/live_site/brief_list-most_famous_messianic_jews.html
 
Alias said:
The disciples were Jews. The first Christians were Jews. They didn't stop being Jews when they came to believe Jesus is the Messiah. You're flat wrong on this one. Keep going. I'm gonna have some fun with you.
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If they stopped practicing Judaism when they began to follow Jesus, then they stopped being Jews but remained Semites.

Your turn.
 
Alias said:
You are an indoctrinated Catholic. You still need to be saved. All you have is religion, not Life. Seriously, you need to call on the name of the Lord and be saved or you're no better than all those Jews who didn't believe on Jesus. Seriously.

Jesus is your Savior and he doesn't live in the Catholic Church.
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Surely you don't mean that Catholics aren't true christians.
 
christiefan915 said:
Apples and oranges.
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Nope. Scripture tells us.

You still haven't answered this.......Jesus said in Matthew 19 that marriage is a man and a woman....a man shall leave his mother and cling to his wife and they shall become one flesh... Is Jesus a bigot?

You still haven't answered when Jesus stopped being a Jew and a Rabbi.
 
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