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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/01/380129/norquist-gop-middle-class-ta/

[h=1]Norquist Tells GOP That Raising Taxes On The Middle Class Doesn’t Count As A Tax Increase[/h]
Anti-tax zealot Grover Norquist, the president of Americans For Tax Reform and author of the radical anti-tax pledge that has played a significant role in hamstringing budget and deficit-reduction negotiations, has said that it is unacceptable for those who have signed his pledge to vote in favor of any tax increase. But now that President Obama and congressional Democrats are backing a tax cut aimed at stimulating economic growth, Norquist has changed his tune. Norquist met with Republican members today to let them know that opposing the extension of the payroll tax cut — which would provide many families an extra $1,000 a year — would not amount to supporting a tax increase, National Journal’s Billy House reported today:

That stands in contrast, however, to Norquist’s position on tax cuts for the wealthy. Norquist has repeatedly warned GOP members about voting in favor of repealing the Bush tax cuts for the rich or tax hikes on millionaires, even verbally sparring with a member of a group of millionaires advocating for higher taxes on themselves last month in Washington, D.C. And yet, when it comes to tax cuts for the middle class meant to drive economic recovery, Norquist clearly takes a different stance.
Republicans who have defended those tax breaks for the wealthy aren’t so sure about holding the Norquist position, though. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) warned his rank and file this morning about opposing the extension, telling them that “taxes are a Republican issue and you aren’t a Republican if you want to raise taxes on struggling families to fund bigger government.” Multiple Republican senators, meanwhile, have come out in favor of the extension, and Sen. Sue Collins (R-ME) even proposed raising taxes on some wealthy Americans to pay for it.
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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/01/380129/norquist-gop-middle-class-ta/

Norquist Tells GOP That Raising Taxes On The Middle Class Doesn’t Count As A Tax Increase


Anti-tax zealot Grover Norquist, the president of Americans For Tax Reform and author of the radical anti-tax pledge that has played a significant role in hamstringing budget and deficit-reduction negotiations, has said that it is unacceptable for those who have signed his pledge to vote in favor of any tax increase. But now that President Obama and congressional Democrats are backing a tax cut aimed at stimulating economic growth, Norquist has changed his tune. Norquist met with Republican members today to let them know that opposing the extension of the payroll tax cut — which would provide many families an extra $1,000 a year — would not amount to supporting a tax increase, National Journal’s Billy House reported today:

That stands in contrast, however, to Norquist’s position on tax cuts for the wealthy. Norquist has repeatedly warned GOP members about voting in favor of repealing the Bush tax cuts for the rich or tax hikes on millionaires, even verbally sparring with a member of a group of millionaires advocating for higher taxes on themselves last month in Washington, D.C. And yet, when it comes to tax cuts for the middle class meant to drive economic recovery, Norquist clearly takes a different stance.
Republicans who have defended those tax breaks for the wealthy aren’t so sure about holding the Norquist position, though. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) warned his rank and file this morning about opposing the extension, telling them that “taxes are a Republican issue and you aren’t a Republican if you want to raise taxes on struggling families to fund bigger government.” Multiple Republican senators, meanwhile, have come out in favor of the extension, and Sen. Sue Collins (R-ME) even proposed raising taxes on some wealthy Americans to pay for it.
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what part of the fact that the gop is the party of the 1% was overlooked and their general hypocrisy regarding taxes
 
what part of the fact that the gop is the party of the 1% was overlooked and their general hypocrisy regarding taxes
ignoring the fact that democrats are also the party of the 1% makes you look foolish and ignorant. that goes for anyone else out there that thinks the dems are for 'main street'.
 
Lets be honest. The only reason why Democrats support this tax cut is because it helps their ultimate goal, to have 51% of voters paying no taxes while the remainder foot the bill. Then they can tell the zero liability voters that Republicans will make you pay your own way, so you better vote Democrat.
 
Lets be honest. The only reason why Democrats support this tax cut is because it helps their ultimate goal, to have 51% of voters paying no taxes while the remainder foot the bill. Then they can tell the zero liability voters that Republicans will make you pay your own way, so you better vote Democrat.

Paying no taxes? If we are going to be honest, you have to be honest too. Nobody pays no taxes.
But while I have the podium, why is it O.K. to raise taxes on the middle class but not on the rich?
Can the middle class more afford a tax cut right now?
 
Paying no taxes? If we are going to be honest, you have to be honest too. Nobody pays no taxes.
But while I have the podium, why is it O.K. to raise taxes on the middle class but not on the rich?
Can the middle class more afford a tax cut right now?

Paying no payroll taxes, plus many get EIC and thus a rebate on taxes that they didn't pay.

It's OK to raise taxes on the middle and lower classes to get them more in line with the percentages paid by the rich. In fact the only fair way to tax people is to have them all pay the same percentage regardless of income.
 
Paying no payroll taxes, plus many get EIC and thus a rebate on taxes that they didn't pay.

It's OK to raise taxes on the middle and lower classes to get them more in line with the percentages paid by the rich. In fact the only fair way to tax people is to have them all pay the same percentage regardless of income.

So capital gains tax should be hiked up pretty dramaticaly then?
 
Paying no payroll taxes, plus many get EIC and thus a rebate on taxes that they didn't pay.

It's OK to raise taxes on the middle and lower classes to get them more in line with the percentages paid by the rich. In fact the only fair way to tax people is to have them all pay the same percentage regardless of income.

Yes, income....money coming in....money coming in from capital gains. Money coming in from inheritances. Money coming in from anywhere and everywhere. That's the fair way.
 
So let me get this straight. It is the position of conservatives that cutting payroll taxes, which also affect the employer, is NOT wrong, but voting not to continue the Bush tax cuts was a vote to raise taxes. The GOP should just admit that they will hurt the majority of Americans in any way possible to further their goal of getting rid of President Obama. I honestly believe that GOPers would support Satan for President so long as he ran as a Republican. I mean Satan in his casual, Sunday football wearing garb, Horns, hooves, tail and pitch fork.
 
So let me get this straight. It is the position of conservatives that cutting payroll taxes, which also affect the employer, is NOT wrong, but voting not to continue the Bush tax cuts was a vote to raise taxes. The GOP should just admit that they will hurt the majority of Americans in any way possible to further their goal of getting rid of President Obama. I honestly believe that GOPers would support Satan for President so long as he ran as a Republican. I mean Satan in his casual, Sunday football wearing garb, Horns, hooves, tail and pitch fork.

It is the position of conservatives that everyone should pay the same rate.
 
Yes, income....money coming in....money coming in from capital gains. Money coming in from inheritances. Money coming in from anywhere and everywhere. That's the fair way.
Then why wouldn't liberals accept that? Oh that's right, because their constituency would have to pay taxes.
 
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