No support for idiots supporting terrorists

Alias said:
We are discussing what is legal. You need to take some time and read about Abe Lincoln suspending Habeus Corpus among other rights during the Civil War to save the Union.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/habeuscorpus.htm
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you need to take some time and realize that allowing a government to set aside the constitution for a crisis lets them toss it aside any time they want just so long as they can brainwash your stupid masses in to trusting them. the founders would put you in exile back to england.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
you need to take some time and realize that allowing a government to set aside the constitution for a crisis lets them toss it aside any time they want just so long as they can brainwash your stupid masses in to trusting them. the founders would put you in exile back to england.
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Tell that to Abraham Lincoln.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
the fact that you still don't see the danger to the constitution with the above statements is terrifying. you are an enemy to the constitution as well it seems.
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Why don't you address my post .... explain your accusations....you can't....you're done....you've resorted to repeating clichés....


The terrorists could not be stopped and arrested for nothing......
 
Alias said:
If the war is lost there is no Bill of Rights. It's quite a dilemma. Many rights are suspended during war.
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No they are not. You may be willing to suspend your rights in some war that can be said to be unending, but I am not.

The rights guaranteed by the US Constitution are not subject to being suspended.
 
WinterBorn said:
No they are not. You may be willing to suspend your rights in some war that can be said to be unending, but I am not.

The rights guaranteed by the US Constitution are not subject to being suspended.
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You're too late. It's already happened. Kinda like the sunrise every morning. You can't say it never happened.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
you need to take some time and realize that allowing a government to set aside the constitution for a crisis lets them toss it aside any time they want just so long as they can brainwash your stupid masses in to trusting them. the founders would put you in exile back to england.
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I guess thats about it then.....that kind of ignorance doesn't ever deserve a response.....see ya.
 
bravo said:
Why don't you address my post .... explain your accusations....you can't....you're done....you've resorted to repeating clichés....


The terrorists could not be stopped and arrested for nothing......
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i've explained my accusations quite well. it's not my fault that you're too ideologically ignorant to see the truth of the matter. that truth is that you could care less about the constitution and our rights as much as you care about being protected from the boogeyman. that instead of supporting freedom and liberty, you surrender to fear and totalitarianism. it's wholly antithetical to the vision of the founding fathers.
 
Alias said:
I never said that. You did.
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But apparently the fact that the entire nation did not die is justification for throwing the entire US Constitution (or the most important parts) out the window.
 
WinterBorn said:
Indeed it is. Take them all away, just keep us safe!

These traitors would hand over every freedom for the promise of safety, even if that promise could not be kept except by luck.
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and snitch on their fellow countrymen if they felt their safety was jeopardized by people who believed in liberty. a regular old benedict arnold.
 
Alias said:
You're too late. It's already happened. Kinda like the sunrise every morning. You can't say it never happened.
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Did I say it never happened?

But if you are going to allow it, since it happened before, what is the point of laws at all?
 
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