Ted Kennedy, Still an embarresment to the country even in death

Onceler said:
PNAC was the architect of the Iraq War. Paul Wolfowicz even said PUBLICLY that they "decided" on WMD's as the best way to "sell" the war to the public.

And still these idiots apologize.
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It's all laid out in writing, step by step, so one can only conclude these idiots don't want to have their illusions destroyed.
 
Alias said:
The "Iraq War" began in 1991. It never ended. There was no surrender. There was a conditional cease fire.
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Which is exactly what the Left want to everyone to forget about
They've convinced themselves that President Bush II is the cause of everything; but wouldn't that mean that their own representatives must have been as dumb as a sack of rocks!!
 
As I have said - if these idiots are allowed to write the textbooks, in 10-20 years time, Bush will have fought the Democrats in Congress tooth & nail to avoid invading Iraq, but in the end, they just forced his hand, and he had no choice.

It's incredible to read the BS that comes out of them.
 
Alias said:
LOL...no one is trying to intimidate you. I'm just posting the facts. There was never a surrender in the 1991 war, only a conditional cease fire. Saddam made an agreement to a conditional cease fire. Perhaps you forgot that or just didn't know it. You need to have actual knowledge here, not talking points from partisan lefty sites.
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Have you started drinking? I never said there was a surrender, you're the one who keeps bringing it up. The fact is, I didn't support that war and didn't care how it ended, as long as it did end. Did you support GHWB's decision not to remove Saddam from power, yes or no?
 
Onceler said:
As I have said - if these idiots are allowed to write the textbooks, in 10-20 years time, Bush will have fought the Democrats in Congress tooth & nail to avoid invading Iraq, but in the end, they just forced his hand, and he had no choice.

It's incredible to read the BS that comes out of them.
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Lol, so true.
 
Onceler said:
No argument from me. Dropping the bomb was a criminal act - one which can never be forgiven.

See, I'm not a koolaid sucking apologist hack like you & bravo. I have no reason to protect a politician just because they're a "Democrat."

But, for whatever reason, you're both eternally loyal to Bush, and feel some sort of need to absolve him of accountability for his invasion of Iraq. Weird.
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We are loyal to the truth.

You live in a magical world and not reality. You believe dropping the atomic bombs on Japan was a criminal act. That's an astounding statement to make about a war. Every war is "criminal". The attack on Pearl Harbor was "criminal". You don't get very far with that type of thinking.
 
bravo said:
Where does it say that 'sending troops, establish a no fly zone, support an insurgency, arm Saddams enemys, etc. to remove him from power is prohibited ?
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In support of the facts chastizing the loony left:

A declaration of war is a formal declaration issued by a national government indicating that a state of war exists between that nation and another. For the United States, Article One, Section Eight of the Constitution says "Congress shall have power to ... declare War". However, that passage provides no specific format for what form legislation must have in order to be considered a "Declaration of War" nor does the Constitution itself use this term. Many[who?] have postulated "Declaration(s) of War" must contain that phrase as or within the title. Others oppose that reasoning. In the courts, the United States First Circuit Court of Appeals in Doe vs. Bush said: "[T]he text of the October Resolution itself spells out justifications for a war and frames itself as an 'authorization' of such a war."[1] in effect saying a formal Congressional "Declaration of War" was not required by the Constitution.
 
christiefan915 said:
Have you started drinking? I never said there was a surrender, you're the one who keeps bringing it up. The fact is, I didn't support that war and didn't care how it ended, as long as it did end. Did you support GHWB's decision not to remove Saddam from power, yes or no?
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It doesn't matter if you support a war or not. What difference does that make to the facts of what happened? Do you want to talk about history or do you want to talk about personal views. Pick one.
 
Alias said:
It doesn't matter if you support a war or not. What difference does that make to the facts of what happened? Do you want to talk about history or do you want to talk about personal views. Pick one.
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My question about GHW Bush refers to our history with Iraq and you've continually ignored it.
 
Alias said:
We are loyal to the truth.

You live in a magical world and not reality. You believe dropping the atomic bombs on Japan was a criminal act. That's an astounding statement to make about a war. Every war is "criminal". The attack on Pearl Harbor was "criminal". You don't get very far with that type of thinking.
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Even wars have rules. You don't target civies.

Period.
 
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