Yep, gay marriage will definitely ruin the institution of marriage </sarcasm>

DamnYankee said:
What? You're implying someone else's motives onto me.

Are you going to admit this simple fact, or are you going to spend 18 pages denying?
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Did I imply someone else's motives onto you?

Or did I simply point out once again your willingness to justify your own situational morality while criticizing others?
 
DamnYankee said:
Running away? Is that what you call destroying your last two posts?

No doubt you won't admit this last mistake either, but will spend 18 pages denying it. :D
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Riiiiiiiight...making petty ad hominem attacks on my marriage is "destroying" my posts...whatever you say!


:rofl:
 
DamnYankee said:
Yes.
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When any of our citizens are denied we all lose. As long as any of our citizens are treated unjustly, there are only two categories for everyone else: Those who fight the injustice and those who support it.

You have chosen to support the injustice and the denial of our citizens. I have chosen to fight it.
 
DamnYankee said:
Its not a rights issue.
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Did I say it was?

But it is an injustice that straights are given benefits by the gov't for simply getting married, while gays cannot have those same rights.

Especially when there is no reason for the denial.
 
Superfreak said:
A question about the studies. If you have two loving couples, one gay, one straight, is the main reason that the studies determine the child is 'better off' due to the fact that we as a society stigmatize gay marriages and to varying degrees 'look down' on those relationships? Is it not personal bias that leads us to think straight marriages are better? I would argue that the main reason people state the child would be better is because then that child wouldn't have to potentially be exposed to the bigotry against gay couples that exists.

Just my opinion.
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Valid points. Also, we have to remember that in the past children brought up in single parent homes almost always were subjected to extreme poverty. And orphans, well, a quick research of orphanages years ago paints a very bleak picture. Society never gave a damn about children so it's natural studies show children in two parent families did well. Thus was born the idea children did better in a two parent family.

While conditions have improved many single parents still live in poverty.
 
DamnYankee said:
You're confuse, using rights arguments for an issue that isn't about rights, but deviancy.
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I am not confused at all. You are claiming I am making a rights argument. I am making an argument that gov't benefits should not be based on sexual orientation. Especially when sex is not the point of the benefits.
 
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