Marine injured
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cawacko
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I'll bite. What does that have to do with the topic we are discussing? What is even partisan about what you posted?
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
I'll tell you exactly how the guy was injured. After being knocked to the ground, a flash bang exploded right by his head. That is CLEARLY the fault of the police, as in it was entirely intentional.
icedancer2theend
Verified User
So protesters reacted to being evicted from camping out at a park, by throwing things at police? Now they rage at the fact that shit gets thrown back at them?
The problems began early Tuesday morning when police raided the Occupy Oakland encampment outside City Hall, turning over tents, arresting around a hundred people and escorting people out of Snow Park, where they had been living for the past two weeks. In the afternoon, protesters gathered in the center of the city, saying they would reclaim their encampment, despite the police and city officials saying it was now illegal to stay there overnight.When the protesters marched back toward the encampment, skirmishes broke out. According to the Associated Press:
The scene has repeated itself several times since. But each time officers move to disperse the crowd, protesters quickly gather again in assemblies that authorities have declared illegal. Tensions rise as protesters edge closer to police line and climax when someone throws a bottle or rock and authorities response with volleys of gas.”
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The problems began early Tuesday morning when police raided the Occupy Oakland encampment outside City Hall, turning over tents, arresting around a hundred people and escorting people out of Snow Park, where they had been living for the past two weeks. In the afternoon, protesters gathered in the center of the city, saying they would reclaim their encampment, despite the police and city officials saying it was now illegal to stay there overnight.When the protesters marched back toward the encampment, skirmishes broke out. According to the Associated Press:
The scene has repeated itself several times since. But each time officers move to disperse the crowd, protesters quickly gather again in assemblies that authorities have declared illegal. Tensions rise as protesters edge closer to police line and climax when someone throws a bottle or rock and authorities response with volleys of gas.”
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SmarterthanYou
rebel
Loving all the nanny state worship. Authorities declared something illegal so it has to be, they said so. LOL
icedancer2theend
Verified User
I know you have little respect for cops. I have a lot of respect. I have family members and friends who are cops. I worked as a dispatcher for the State Police- I have known cops for most of my life. The majority of them are good decent people. There are bad cops. That said, cops are hired to do their job. If they are ordered to go kick out people camping in a public park- that's what they do. The right to protest does not include the right to camp out in a public park littering and defecating and making it unpleasant and inaccessible for others.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Do you have a link, to support this assertion; because everything else I've read said it MAY have been a tear gas canister, or MAY have been a rubber projectile.
But all those came hours after the situation and by members of the protesting group.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
what part of their oath that says 'support and defend the constitution' do you not understand when you say they are just doing a job?
icedancer2theend
Verified User
How are they breaking that oath by breaking up camping in a public square, where commerce is being disrupted; public property is being damaged; and sanitation has become an issue?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Theres this thing called the 1st Amendment. Maybe you've heard of it?
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
There's this thing called city rules and regulations. Maybe you've heard of them.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
and they take priority over the bill of rights?
icedancer2theend
Verified User
People have a right to access business; enjoy a public space their tax dollars pay for; have an expectation of sanitation in a public square; be free to move through public areas without incident. The protesters were infringing on these rights. They were asked to move to another area. They did not do so "peaceably". So they were removed by force. Their right to assemble peaceably was not infringed upon. Their right to camp in a public park; litter; cause sanitation issues; block commerce' throw objects at police officers- DO NOT EXIST.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Where are those rights enumerated?
icedancer2theend
Verified User
1st amendment rights of protestors are not absolute. If demonstrators break laws or infringe on the free flow business; destroy property; or get violent- the government has the right and the duty to stop them.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Well of COURSE, the right of the rich to shop in peace without having to look at the less fortunate is being TRAMPLED UPON!
And of course, now that places THE WEALTHY frequent are facing sanitation issues, suddenly the Right claims sanitation issues are important. This is the same Right that is trying to dismantle the EPA because they don't give two rat farts about the water quality that "normal" Americans drink on a daily basis.
And public propety is being damaged! Sure...it would have been nice if Righties showed the tiniest bit of concern when regular Americans complained that mining companies were polluting our rivers (a.k.a PUBLIC PROPERTY) with the heavy metals they needed to use to make their operations "cost effective."
SmarterthanYou
rebel
not absolute. The cry of people who dont agree with the opinion of those exercising their rights.
icedancer2theend
Verified User
Cancel 2018. 3
<-- sched 2, MJ sched 1
bump for legion and dune
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Do you have any supporting evidence that it was only the "rich" that wanted to shop in peace or that only the "wealthy" frequent those places?