Great viewpoint on the 1%.

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I did? Really?

YOU posted it, so you own it.

Irony abounds as usual here. I was accused of copy & paste on this thread. But when I post an article authored by someone else to back up MY opinions, I stand behind that authors words as if they are my own. You on the other hand DON'T.

Also, WHY isn't Damo or freak calling YOU out for: '9% of the wealth of this country in the hands of the top 1%'?
 
YOU posted it, so you own it.

Irony abounds as usual here. I was accused of copy & paste on this thread. But when I post an article authored by someone else to back up MY opinions, I stand behind that authors words as if they are my own. You on the other hand DON'T.

Also, WHY isn't Damo or freak calling YOU out for: '9% of the wealth of this country in the hands of the top 1%'?

Becauuse they realize that the 1% part of my post is of little or no relevance.

Also, the reason you catch so much shit about your copy & paste is that it is almost all that you do. I, on the other hand, have been known to ramble on and on in (*wait for it*).......my own words.
 
Becauuse they realize that the 1% part of my post is of little or no relevance.

Also, the reason you catch so much shit about your copy & paste is that it is almost all that you do. I, on the other hand, have been known to ramble on and on in (*wait for it*).......my own words.

Of course your 1% is relevant to what YOU said after it. You accepted it as fact and didn't blink an eye, because you right wingers worship at the alter of an aristocracy.

If you want to emote here, go for it. I prefer to deal with facts that can be backed up.
 
Bfged like you claiming greatest GDP fron new deal not WWII?

I said: 'FDR and the New Deal created the LARGEST increase in GDP in American history' and 'The greatest yearly increase in GDP occurred during the New Deal. The GDP growth leveled off after WWII.'

Freak said: the 'greatest growth period in our history (referring to GDP) that period you are referring to came AFTER WWII.'...that is FALSE.

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Of course your 1% is relevant to what YOU said after it. You accepted it as fact and didn't blink an eye, because you right wingers worship at the alter of an aristocracy.

If you want to emote here, go for it. I prefer to deal with facts that can be backed up.

You prefer to pigeon-hole everyone based on a myopic view of the two sides. This "they want an aristocracy" is nonsense. And the way you cling to a single, isolated item, to the exclusion of all else, is most telling.
 
You prefer to pigeon-hole everyone based on a myopic view of the two sides. This "they want an aristocracy" is nonsense. And the way you cling to a single, isolated item, to the exclusion of all else, is most telling.

I addressed the rest of your ass licking of the opulent crap once. Do you want a synopsis?

WB said: Yes, America has become an aristocracy, but our serfs have it better than 3rd world serfs.
 
The build up to and the war created the highest GDP, yes the new deal created a lot of spending as well. But recoveries usually will.
 
I addressed the rest of your ass licking of the opulent crap once. Do you want a synopsis?

WB said: Yes, America has become an aristocracy, but our serfs have it better than 3rd world serfs.

Is that what I said? lol I guess its handy to be able to rewrite what others have said. It makes winning an argument possible for you.

The fact is, what you are missing is that conservatives are not wanting to build an aristocracy. What they want is to have the freedom to build their own lives. Your version of utopia has people all sharing in the wealth but nothing about sharing in the work. I prefer freedom over an oppressive gov't that claims to have our best interest in mind.
 
The build up to and the war created the highest GDP, yes the new deal created a lot of spending as well. But recoveries usually will.

WWII started in 1939 and ended in 1945. Maybe TURD U didn't teach you that. FDR and the New Deal policies created a tremendously successful recovery from the worst depression in our history. It started well before WWII. Of course the war effort was a factor, but it was NOT the only reason our economy recovered.

The WAR created a lot of spending.

Growth of Government During the Great Depression

Government Expenditures and Investments (in current dollars)

Hoover Administration, 1929-1939
in 1929: $9.4 billion
in 1930: $10.0
in 1931: $9.9
in 1932: $8.7

Roosevelt's New Deal
in 1933: $8.7 billion
in 1934: $10.5
in 1935: $10.9
in 1936: $13.1
in 1937: $12.8
in 1938: $13.8
in 1939: $14.8
in 1940: $15.0
in 1941: $26.5
in 1942: $62.7
in 1943: $94.8
in 1944: $105.3
in 1945: $93
 
Is that what I said? lol I guess its handy to be able to rewrite what others have said. It makes winning an argument possible for you.

The fact is, what you are missing is that conservatives are not wanting to build an aristocracy. What they want is to have the freedom to build their own lives. Your version of utopia has people all sharing in the wealth but nothing about sharing in the work. I prefer freedom over an oppressive gov't that claims to have our best interest in mind.

Nah, that is just your version of conservative doctrine. Conservatism by definition is about maintianing the status quo, which indeed is rule by aristocracy. If this were not so, we wouldn't have a seperate ruling class, all related to each other and decended from the european royal family.
 
Nah, that is just your version of conservative doctrine. Conservatism by definition is about maintianing the status quo, which indeed is rule by aristocracy. If this were not so, we wouldn't have a seperate ruling class, all related to each other and decended from the european royal family.

Oh conservatism is responsible for the ruling class and all the politicians that have been related to each other. Gotcha.

The definition of conservatism, at least when I came of age, was one of less gov't interference, lower taxes, more social equality, and looking for solutions in the private sector instead of the public sector.
 
what an amazing coincidence......just as the nations of Europe are seized by Germany and production of everything except German war materials is shut down in total, the American GDP increases dramatically because FDR is our president....think how much more our economy might have been stimulated if our factories had also had to compensate for all the lost production of a continent at war.......(sarcasm alert)
 
You said highest had to do with new deal while your own facts show it happened during the war dropout

I discussed GDP, which began a drastic yearly rise from FDR's first year, 6 years before WWII started in Europe and 9 years before America entered the war. GDP increased even more once the war began, but war alone does NOT account for the highest yearly increases in GDP in our history.

YOU brought up spending. Spending only made a drastic yearly rise once we were fully involved in the war.

Maybe you need to go back to TURD U and take some remedial courses.
 
what an amazing coincidence......just as the nations of Europe are seized by Germany and production of everything except German war materials is shut down in total, the American GDP increases dramatically because FDR is our president....think how much more our economy might have been stimulated if our factories had also had to compensate for all the lost production of a continent at war.......(sarcasm alert)

WWII began in 1939, 6 years after FDR took office. HOW do you explain THIS?

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The basic economic facts from the 1930s—according to the Department of Commerce, the Federal Reserve, and other official sources. The monthly data for industrial production show a near three-year collapse under President Hoover, ending when FDR came to office in March 1933. Production rocketed by 44 percent in the first three months of the New Deal and, by December 1936, had completely recovered to surpass its 1929 peak.

GDP, only available as annual averages, plunged 25.6 percent from 1929-1932, including by 13.0 percent in 1932. It stabilized in 1933, and then soared by 10.8 percent, 8.9 percent and 12.0 percent, respectively, in 1934, 1935 and 1936. Real GDP surpassed its 1929 peak in 1936 and never again fell below it. After-tax personal income, consumer spending, real private investment and jobs all reached or surpassed their 1929 peaks by late 1936.

In fact, like every decade between 1850 and 1990, the 1930s suffered two distinct downturns. The official U.S. Business Cycle Dating Committee established that the downturn that began in August 1929 ended in March 1933 with the remarkable economic expansion that started within days of FDR’s bold—if trial and error—New Deal programs. By any normal definition, the Great Depression had ended by late 1936, with all major indicators surpassing their previous peaks.
 
What a bunch of BS. Just ask the top percentage point earners if they rather be poor and happy like the idiocy assumed in this rather stupid OP. Let's see how many would switch places? Bad teeth, no car, no home, old clothing, but be happy. This is too moronic for comment.
 
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