Cain's plan doesn't add up!

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/story/2011-10-13/9-9-9-Cain-tax-editorial/50761434/1

Wealthy people in the 35% top tax bracket would find themselves paying 9% instead. Beyond that, the Cain plan would abolish taxes on capital gains, two-thirds of which are reported by taxpayers with annual incomes above $1 million, and on estates. No wonder 9-9-9 is so popular in certain circles.
If the rich pay less, the money has to come from somewhere, namely from lower-income people who now pay little or no income tax and who would also get slammed by the 9% national sales tax on food, clothing and other goods.
Talk about regressive.
Cain claims his plan is revenue neutral, but Bloomberg News estimates that 9-9-9 would have raised about $2 trillion last year, or $200 billion less than the government collected. Even giving Cain the benefit of the doubt, $2.2 trillion isn't enough at a time when the government is spending $3.7 trillion. To balance his first budget, something he promised in the debate, President Cain would have to slash $1.5 trillion in outlays — an amount equal to Social Security and defense, combined.

More at link.
 
What do you expect from a "plan" cadged from a video game?
 
Wealthy people in the 35% top tax bracket would find themselves paying 9% instead.

Why do liberals let their obsession with punishing the wealthy, distract them from the details of reality? Cain's plan also eliminates all the loopholes and tax breaks... remember, those things that make it unfair for the poor because the rich get to claim them? And the quoted sentence above sounds much less alarming if you honestly include the extra 9% tax on everything the rich person buys, which they aren't paying with the current plan. Instead of paying 35% minus all the loopholes and tax breaks... they will pay a solid 9%, no deductions, plus 9% sales tax on everything they purchase. Oh, and if they have a business (most rich people do), they will pay another 9% on the business income.
 
That's the way it is in Sim City, where Cain got the idea.

He has more chance of being Mayor of Sim City than POTUS.
 
Cain didn't get the idea from Sim City. The fact that a computer game logically uses the same 'plan' as a master of mathematics came up with, is purely coincidental.

How do you know?

How is it "logical" as a plan?

Prove Herman the failed pizza exec didn't steal his plan...
 
How do you know?

How is it "logical" as a plan?

Prove Herman the failed pizza exec didn't steal his plan...

1. It is logical because a computer game determined it was logical and a mathematician determined it was also logical. That trumps a stupid liberal idiot who says it isn't logical.

2. I don't have to prove Cain didn't steal his plan from Sim City, you have to prove that's where he got it from.
 
And the quoted sentence above sounds much less alarming if you honestly include the extra 9% tax on everything the rich person buys

Which could be a very small portion of their income. Rich people seldom spend their entire income, the sales tax only applies to the part they spend.

That is what the article meant when they said "regressive".
 
1. It is logical because a computer game determined it was logical and a mathematician determined it was also logical. That trumps a stupid liberal idiot who says it isn't logical.

2. I don't have to prove Cain didn't steal his plan from Sim City, you have to prove that's where he got it from.

Who was this alledged mathematician? Cain already said it was not his idea.
 
Which could be a very small portion of their income. Rich people seldom spend their entire income, the sales tax only applies to the part they spend.

That is what the article meant when they said "regressive".

No one ever spends their entire income, dumbass... what the fuck? Do you not think rich people generally spend a hell of a lot more than poor people? How many poor people do you see at the Mercedes dealership? Right now, with the economy completely in the toilet, who do you think are booking trips to the Bahamas and cruises to Alaska? Poor people? Middle class people? It is the rich people who we can depend on to always spend money, because they have the money to spend, while others don't.
 
No one ever spends their entire income, dumbass... what the fuck? Do you not think rich people generally spend a hell of a lot more than poor people? How many poor people do you see at the Mercedes dealership? Right now, with the economy completely in the toilet, who do you think are booking trips to the Bahamas and cruises to Alaska? Poor people? Middle class people? It is the rich people who we can depend on to always spend money, because they have the money to spend, while others don't.

You are such a moron.
Poor people always spend all their money. That is why they are poor.
 
Is your brain loose? Cain doesn't claim it is his plan.

LMFAO... Really? You mean all over his website, in all the interviews, in all the debates, in all the campaign literature, where he consistently calls it "MY 999 PLAN" he doesn't really mean that it's HIS plan? And all of the dozens of threads here, calling it "Cain's 999 plan" are all wrong, and all the hundreds of thousands of links on the Internet that consistently call it "Herman Cain's 999 plan" ...they are all wrong too, and YOU are right????
 
1. It is logical because a computer game determined it was logical and a mathematician determined it was also logical. That trumps a stupid liberal idiot who says it isn't logical.

2. I don't have to prove Cain didn't steal his plan from Sim City, you have to prove that's where he got it from.

Wrong. You claimed he didn't get it from the game.

Cain didn't get the idea from Sim City. The fact that a computer game logically uses the same 'plan' as a master of mathematics came up with, is purely coincidental.

Can you prove it, or not?
 
[h=1]Herman Cain: Who came up with the 999 plan?[/h][h=2]With Herman Cain now a GOP front-runner in some polls, DCDecoder offers a four-point primer on Cain's 999 plan.
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The Washington Post’s Fact Checker Glenn Kessler looked into “999” as well, eventually giving Cain “Three Pinocchios” for saying most Americans would see their taxes decline under his plan.
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"Just like it would be wrong to claim pizza is a low-calorie meal, Cain’s description of the plan’s impact on working Americans is highly misleading," Kessler wrote.
3. Who helped him gin this thing up, anyway?
A good question. The only economic policy adviser Cain has named is a guy named Rich Lowrie (here’s his LinkedIn profile) whose economic credentials are, shall we say, limited. For one, he doesn’t have an economics degree, although Cain called him an economist during the debate Tuesday night. Second, his professional experience extends to helping run a Wells Fargo wealth management division outside of Cleveland, Ohio, and sitting on the boards of various conservative economic groups. Cain has refused to offer up the names of any other advisers

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2011/1014/Herman-Cain-Who-came-up-with-the-999-plan/(page)/2

Of course, if you don't believe the Christian Science Monitor, there is always Cains words himself;

 
No no.... just the average rich person vs. the average poor person... who tends to spend more money, do you think? I believe it is the rich person, because they simply have more money to spend.

That's a tough one, I don't know, it may take a while.
 
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