How can conservatives justify this?

They can justify anything, to themselves....

They cry about taxes and then start spermin' when Herman says he wantsto add a federal sales tax that will increase taxes on the American people.

Consumetrs in some states could pay as much as 18% over and above retail....:palm:
 
I get that, but how are they going to justify it to the voters?

This looks like a gambit gone wrong to me.
 
In forming their union, the states delegated to it a specific and limited set of powers. These are the only powers that may be legally exercised by the union; all others are prohibited. Enacting a jobs bill is not among the enumerated powers of congress, and is therefore prohibited and illegal.
 
Centinel said:
In forming their union, the states delegated to it a specific and limited set of powers. These are the only powers that may be legally exercised by the union; all others are prohibited. Enacting a jobs bill is not among the enumerated powers of congress, and is therefore prohibited and illegal.
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So the Employment Act of 1946 was unconstitutional, according to you?
 
Centinel said:
I would have to conclude so, yes. The federal government has no authority for a jobs bill as far as I can see in article I, section 8.
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what about section 9

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
 
Yurt said:
what about section 9

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
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Are you proposing that this wording authorizes a jobs bill? I don't see how. It seems to restrict expenditures to only appropriations made by law. But the only laws congress may pass are laws that carry out their enumerated powers, thus money may only be drawn from the treasury to fund congress' legitimate powers.
 
Centinel said:
Are you proposing that this wording authorizes a jobs bill? I don't see how. It seems to restrict expenditures to only appropriations made by law. But the only laws congress may pass are laws that carry out their enumerated powers, thus money may only be drawn from the treasury to fund congress' legitimate powers.
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Appropriations made by Law

explain the above
 
Yurt said:
1. the bill is meadowmuffins and is nothing but a campaign stunt

2. you do realize that many dems also do not support the bill....how can the dems justify that?
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The bill is no campaign stunt. The only 'stunt' is the Teapublican's party before the country stunt. Destroy Obama and gain back power, and if We the People are destroyed, we're just collateral damage.



What would the American Jobs Act have accomplished?

The bill would have reduced the deficit by $6 billion over ten years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The Republicans filibustered deficit reduction.

The bill would have created nearly two million new jobs. The Republicans filibustered the creation of two million new jobs.

The bill would have increased the gross domestic product (GDP) by two points. The Republicans filibustered increasing the GDP.

The bill would have cut taxes for 98 percent of businesses. The Republicans filibustered a tax cut for businesses.

The bill would have offered a tax credit for military veterans returning from war. The Republicans filibustered a tax credit for the troops.

The bill would have reduced unemployment by a full percentage point. The Republicans filibustered a reduction in unemployment.

The bill would have been paid for by a 5.6 percent surtax on millionaires -- a surtax that, again, a majority of Republican voters support. The Republicans filibustered paying for the bill.
 
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