I'll debate anytime, anywhere, but you fuckwits don't want to debate. You want to obfuscate, denigrate, distort, contort, spin, over-hype, lie your ass off, post links to propaganda, pretend reality doesn't exist, or whatever you need to do in order to keep believing your Utopian bullshit. You can't have a rational debate with irrational idiots, it's not possible, so why should I bother? Could there be a more profound waste of time? I'm not going to suddenly convert you from Liberal pinhead idiot to anything remotely close to normal, because you are comfortable being a Liberal pinhead idiot, and that's fine... I'll just fuck with you and mess with your head. That's more fun than trying to have a serious debate... I leave that shit to Superfreak and Yurt, they still think there is hope.