Setting the Record Straight

icedancer2theend

icedancer2theend

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WOW- this story deserves to be told~



My father, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, has been in politics as long as I can remember.

And as long as I can remember, media coverage about him has contained misstatements of facts. The vast majority are simple mistakes that are easily corrected, understood and rewoven into an ongoing storyline.

But one of them seems to have taken on a life of its own, and simple corrections have not sufficed to set the record straight. Why does this happen? I can't be sure, but I suspect that the narrative created by these untruths proves to be so much more compelling and more dramatic than what actually happened that it proves irresistible.

I'm talking about the story of my father's visit to my mother while she was in the hospital in 1980.


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I had always read and been told that she died of cancer. Come to find out she never had cancer; she did not die; and they were separated before she had her benign tumor removed.
 
icedancer2theend said:
I had always read and been told that she died of cancer. Come to find out she never had cancer; she did not die; and they were separated before she had her benign tumor removed.
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Never had cancer? Looks like righties can't keep their stories straight...



Mom was first diagnosed with cancer in the spring of 1978. She remembers going into her closet, crying and praying that she would live long enough for their children (my sister and me) to graduate high school.

Her prayers were answered: She's been given 27 more years and shows no sign of slowing down.

My father lost his first two congressional campaigns. After undergoing surgery and radiation, Mom and her two children continued to hit the campaign trail with him, determined to win.

Professional success did not secure personal success. In order to raise her two girls in an environment that she thought best for them, Mom asked for a divorce in the spring of 1980. When I asked her recently if she had made the right decision, her response was immediate: "No doubt about it. I never regretted it."

In 2005, Mom was diagnosed with cancer a second time. After enduring surgery and chemotherapy, she ended up in a nursing home, her body exhausted by the treatment. After my sister and I had moved her in, we drove away crying, thinking that she would not make it out. But Mom never gave up hope, defied the odds, and -- through hard work and prayer -- moved into assisted living, then back into her own home, where she still lives.

http://townhall.com/columnists/jackiegingrichcushman/2011/05/05/my_miracle_mom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2715525/posts


Yeah, what a tower of family values this man is. How proud the Religious Right must be.


Jackie Battley was his high school geometry teacher...


Six months after the divorce from Battley was final, Gingrich wed Marianne Ginther in 1981.

In the mid-1990s, Gingrich began an affair with House of Representatives staffer Callista Bisek, who is 23 years his junior.

They continued their affair during the Lewinsky scandal, when Gingrich became a leader of the Republican investigation of President Clinton for perjury and obstruction of justice in connection with his alleged affairs.

In 2000, Gingrich married Bisek shortly after his divorce from second wife Ginther.



Then there's the lil' matter of his ethics problem. Gingrich is the only Speaker of the House to have been disciplined for ethics violations...


No wonder he's done so well in the 2012 campaign...





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich
 
Hey dildo head do try and keep up. When her and Newt divorced she did not have cancer. They decided to divorce in 1980 NOT 1978. The infamous hospital visit was in 1980 while she was having a "benign" tumor removed. She is not dead. She is still alive. All told from the memory of the same daughter.
 
My sister and I feel that it is time to move on, close the book on this event and focus on building a great future. We will not answer additional questions or make additional comments regarding this meaningless incident, which occurred more than three decades ago

Amen.

Yawn.
 
icedancer2theend said:
Hey dildo head do try and keep up. When her and Newt divorced she did not have cancer. They decided to divorce in 1980 NOT 1978. The infamous hospital visit was in 1980 while she was having a "benign" tumor removed. She is not dead. She is still alive. All told from the memory of the same daughter.
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Whatever...Gingrich is still a scumbag who cheated on his wives with other women...not exactly the family values the Right espouse every day.

But by all means continue to hold him up as some sort of paragon of RightWing Morality!
 
icedancer2theend said:
Hey dildo head do try and keep up. When her and Newt divorced she did not have cancer. They decided to divorce in 1980 NOT 1978. The infamous hospital visit was in 1980 while she was having a "benign" tumor removed. She is not dead. She is still alive. All told from the memory of the same daughter.
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I didn't say she didn't have cancer when she and Newt divorced, did I?

I didn't say she was dead, did I?

But you said 'she never had cancer', didn't you?

icedancer2theend said:
I had always read and been told that she died of cancer. Come to find out she never had cancer; she did not die; and they were separated before she had her benign tumor removed.
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And that's a lie, isn't it?

I gave you links to the source. Here they are again:

http://townhall.com/columnists/jacki...my_miracle_mom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2715525/posts

Just setting the record straight. Do try to keep up.
 
Let me correct myself then dildo head. She did not have cancer when they divorced as misreported for years. Is that better dildo head?
 
icedancer2theend said:
WOW- this story deserves to be told~



My father, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, has been in politics as long as I can remember.

And as long as I can remember, media coverage about him has contained misstatements of facts. The vast majority are simple mistakes that are easily corrected, understood and rewoven into an ongoing storyline.

But one of them seems to have taken on a life of its own, and simple corrections have not sufficed to set the record straight. Why does this happen? I can't be sure, but I suspect that the narrative created by these untruths proves to be so much more compelling and more dramatic than what actually happened that it proves irresistible.

I'm talking about the story of my father's visit to my mother while she was in the hospital in 1980.


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Honey, you'd be the last person to be setting any records straight. Who are you?
 
She's apparently one of Damn Yankee's web-wives. I call her Ms Damn Stankee.

Presumably she's the one who quit the board in a huff when her twin sister (Ms Damn Skankee) got banned for breaking the rules.

It seems she couldn't face life without getting spanked by me, so she came back under a new name.
 
Clinton Impeachment Proceedings...

Gingrich... acknowledged cheating on Ginther while leading the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton for allegations of perjury involving the Paula Jones sexual harassment civil case and the president's affair with Monica Lewinsky.

LOL, yea Gingrich is a good, moral Christian! LOL!

Let's face facts, Gingrich will say or do anything to increase profits for his political backers and has no conscience.

But...
You gotta give him credit for being one of the best propagandists in history...
Newt Gingrich clearly understood the power of propaganda. His political action committee (GOPAC) mailed a pamphlet entitled Language, A Key Mechanism of Control to Republicans across the country. The booklet offered rhetorical advice to Republican candidates who wanted to "speak like Newt." It was subsequently awarded a Doublespeak Award by the National Conference of Teachers of English in 1990.

The booklet contained two lists of words. GOP candidates were instructed to use one set of "positive, governing words," (glittering generalities) when speaking about themselves. A second set of negative words (name-calling words) were to be used against their opponents.

View the glittering generalities.
View the name-calling words.
http://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/examples.newt.html

Yea, here's a guy we can trust...
 
And yet this proves that the media lied and misled people on the facts regarding Newts first wife. No scorn for the media? It must be because they wove a tale that liberals' wanted to be true.
 
icedancer2theend said:
And yet this proves that the media lied and misled people on the facts regarding Newts first wife. No scorn for the media? It must be because they wove a tale that liberals' wanted to be true.
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I proved that you lied, skank.

Where's the proof that the media lied?
 
Poor dildo head just can't win for losing.

Gingrich married his second wife, Marianne Ginther, months after he divorced Battley in 1981. According to Battley, Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery.

This from ABC news. Yet, ABC, provided no proof that Battley ever said any such thing.
 
icedancer2theend said:
Poor dildo head just can't win for losing. Gingrich married his second wife, Marianne Ginther, months after he divorced Battley in 1981. According to Battley, Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. This from ABC news. Yet, ABC, provided no proof that Battley ever said any such thing.
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Seems like I'm the one winning, since I'm the one who caught you lying in this thread.


Now, how does the text in your linked article prove ABC was lying when they said this?


According to Battley, Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2937633&page=1
 
Dildo head the loser troll of all loser trolls~ Can't wrap his pudding headed troll brain around the facts.

And as long as I can remember, media coverage about him has contained misstatements of facts. The vast majority are simple mistakes that are easily corrected, understood and rewoven into an ongoing storyline.
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For years, I have thought about trying to correct the untrue accounts of this hospital visit. After all, I was at the hospital with them, and saw and heard what happened. But I have always hesitated, as it was a private family matter and my mother is a very private person
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ABC claims that: According to Battley, Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery.

Yet, ABC, provided no proof that Battley ever said any such thing.

It was the spring of 1980. I was 13 years old, and we were about to leave Fairfax, Va., and drive to Carrollton, Ga., for the summer. My parents told my sister and me that they were getting a divorce as our family of four sat around the kitchen table of our ranch home.
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Note: not while she was in the hospital.

My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother.

She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor.

The tumor was benign.
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ABC claims that: According to Battley, Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery.

This lends no doubt that ABC lied or misstated facts not in evidence. And it is obvious they did not speak to Battley first hand.
 
You have no evidence that the media didn't speak to Battley, either, as far as I can see.

Maybe Battley told a reporter that Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery ands she was lying.

People lie about divorces all the time, as you ought to know. They also lie to their kids.

It doesn't prove "the media lied", which is what you claimed. Let me refresh your memory:

icedancer2theend said:
And yet this proves that the media lied and misled people on the facts regarding Newts first wife. No scorn for the media? It must be because they wove a tale that liberals' wanted to be true.
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Try again.


I'll be the first to condemn 'the media' if you can prove they lied.
 
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