No death penalty for him

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Convicted of murder, but not charged with a capital crime.


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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-bob-ward-trial-verdict-20110924,0,1142987.story
 
Even cases of first degree murder don't typically get charged with or receive the death penalty. Usually it has to be premeditated and aggravated by some other factor that makes the murder especially heinous (my opposition to the death penalty does not come from any delusion that these people haven't done bad things - reading about an average death penalty level crime is a sickening experience that I'd typically rather avoid). I'm not sure of any state that has the death penalty for non-premeditated murders. If you look at this story, it shows that in California only 1% or so of murderers recieved a death sentence, and according to wikipedia even in more conservative states like Nevada only about 6% of murders receive the sentence.

Then again, the line between second and first degree murder is sometimes blurry, and I've read stories of people unable to afford the best lawyers in the world who've been charged with first degree murder, even though it seemed to be a crime of passion, for what seems to be emotional reasons. However, I don't think that such a person would typically get the death penalty in a case like this anyway, they'd probably receive a whole life sentence. For one thing, murders in a family have tendency to divide the family up. It's pretty difficult to achieve a death penalty conviction with the victims daughters crying and begging for it to not be handed down.
 
Even cases of first degree murder don't typically get charged with or receive the death penalty. Usually it has to be premeditated and aggravated by some other factor that makes the murder especially heinous (my opposition to the death penalty does not come from any delusion that these people haven't done bad things - reading about an average death penalty level crime is a sickening experience that I'd typically rather avoid). I'm not sure of any state that has the death penalty for non-premeditated murders. If you look at this story, it shows that in California only 1% or so of murderers recieved a death sentence, and according to wikipedia even in more conservative states like Nevada only about 6% of murders receive the sentence.

Then again, the line between second and first degree murder is sometimes blurry, and I've read stories of people unable to afford the best lawyers in the world who've been charged with first degree murder, even though it seemed to be a crime of passion, for what seems to be emotional reasons. However, I don't think that such a person would typically get the death penalty in a case like this anyway, they'd probably receive a whole life sentence. For one thing, murders in a family have tendency to divide the family up. It's pretty difficult to achieve a death penalty conviction with the victims daughters crying and begging for it to not be handed down.

way to pound legion into the ground
 
...For one thing, murders in a family have tendency to divide the family up. It's pretty difficult to achieve a death penalty conviction with the victims daughters crying and begging for it to not be handed down.


It wasn't even on the table in this case.


His wife was scheduled to testify in a fraud case involving multimillions. After he killed her, the fraud case went away.


He was being sued by an insurance company that accused him of taking more than $20 million from the sale of lots in subdivisions he was building in Tennessee in 2007. The insurance company, which had issued bonds for the subdivisions, said Ward should have used the money to improve the subdivisions, but instead paid off debts and went on a spending spree.

The Wards used the money to buy their 8,800-square-foot mansion in Isleworth, the same neighborhood where Woods had the notorious SUV crash that revealed his adultery and derailed his golf career.



The Wards paid off loans totaling nearly $2.5 million for two houses in Georgia, bought a house on the Georgia coast for $750,000 and purchased several vehicles, including a $140,000 Mercedes-Benz sedan.



As to the family members, there is video of them laughing and joking with Ward after he shot his wife to death.


He's going to appeal.


Check out the smirk:


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James Robert "Bob" Ward, center, is taken into custody by Orange County deputies after being found guilty of second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of his wife inside their Isleworth mansion two years ago. (Red Huber, Orlando Sentinel / September 24, 2011)




http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=140769564
 
The money trail:


The story of Land Resources or Resource is a sobering one at best.


Yes, they tried a name change, perhaps to rid themselves of their tarnished image that they earned over the years.


You see, Land Resources started a handful of developments, blitzing the market with a great ad campaign and it didn't hurt that HGTV tapped two of their developments, on two separate occasions, to be the location for the network's new 'Dream Home'.


What a marketing 'shot in the arm' for any new development of free advertising and great PR exposure.

Not one of Land Resources' developments has turned into a community of homes steadily being built, residents moving in, enjoying amenities and thereby seeing the value of the community and their property investment remain somewhat stable, even in this corrective market over the past few years.


Rather, Land Resource developments from Eastern Tennessee to Western VA, to Western NC to Florida and the coast of GA have been a disappointment to most who invested in their communities.


For some - a financial nightmare.



http://www.southeastdiscovery.com/tag/bob-ward
 
i love how legion IGNORES every post that proves him wrong

keep your head in the sand troll, that way we don't have to look at it
 
It wasn't even on the table in this case.


His wife was scheduled to testify in a fraud case involving multimillions. After he killed her, the fraud case went away.


He was being sued by an insurance company that accused him of taking more than $20 million from the sale of lots in subdivisions he was building in Tennessee in 2007. The insurance company, which had issued bonds for the subdivisions, said Ward should have used the money to improve the subdivisions, but instead paid off debts and went on a spending spree.

The Wards used the money to buy their 8,800-square-foot mansion in Isleworth, the same neighborhood where Woods had the notorious SUV crash that revealed his adultery and derailed his golf career.



The Wards paid off loans totaling nearly $2.5 million for two houses in Georgia, bought a house on the Georgia coast for $750,000 and purchased several vehicles, including a $140,000 Mercedes-Benz sedan.



As to the family members, there is video of them laughing and joking with Ward after he shot his wife to death.
Were his daughters included? That would be surprising.

It also isn't perfect evidence. People don't ceaselessly give the camera appropriate reactions after that others seem to expect when a tragic event happens. Laughing at something after an tragedy doesn't mean you're callous (not really speaking for Bob Ward as much as for the family here). I'm reminded of this 9/11 photo:

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After it was published, there were newspaper articles published about how callous these people were. What on Earth were they supposed to do? Run around with their arms flailing and tears running down their eyes the whole day, just in case a camera with an inappropriately cheery filter happened to turn their way?

He's going to appeal.
Check out the smirk:

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James Robert "Bob" Ward, center, is taken into custody by Orange County deputies after being found guilty of second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of his wife inside their Isleworth mansion two years ago. (Red Huber, Orlando Sentinel / September 24, 2011)




http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=140769564

Well, I wasn't aware of the details of the case, and it does more severe than I had thought. I don't know what qualifies for capital murder in Florida, but I imagine it's one of the more extensive laws. However, you'd have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that that was his purpose. But, again, the definition of "reasonable doubt" can swing wildly in your favor if you have good enough lawyers. I can see it both ways.

My main purpose, though, was to counter your seeming assertion that murder = death sentence. There are a few cases where the death penalty strictness is fudged a bit. Anyone who's standing within the vicinity when a police officer dies is probably going to get the death penalty, which is what doomed Troy Davis.
 

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i have shat brix, watermark has posted incredibly concise and cogent arguments regarding, not only the law, but the reality of situations.
 
I wonder if there are any reliable statistics as to how many rich people have been executed?

probably not as many as those without funds. OJ simpson comes to mind. the reality is, if you have money, you will get a better defense in court. i don't know how to eradicate such difference without requiring X lawyer represent Y defendant. and even if you did, it may not work. in california, my lawyer buddy (whom i've ticketed numerous times for parking violations) tells me some big firms will pro bono such cases or criminal lawyers who love the spot light will take big cases. unfortunately, the rest are left to the public defender's office. it is not perfect, but it is a system that works. with death penalty cases, they do not give an inexperienced lawyer the case. my understanding is that you have to have at least 10 years experience and X number of trials before you are appointed.
 
He shot her in the face, at a range estimated to be 18 inches.

She was due to testify in a deposition in a multimillion dollar lawsuit.

He laughed and joked with his family after the shooting.
 
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