Blacks And Politics

Superfreak said:
As stated before.... the above is proof you are a racist piece of shit. Any black that disagrees with you is an 'uncle tom'. Then you go on to state that Obama is criticized 'simply and mainly because he has black skin'. That is absurd. He is criticized because his policies have failed. He is criticized because he is an ineffective leader. Or do you think that because he is black people shouldn't be able to criticize him?

Keep in mind.... Bush was the one accused of being Hitler, accused of 'allowing 9/11 to occur, and called every name in the book from the left. So it is quite odd that you would think Obama is being treated poorly just because of pigmentation. But then, you do focus on race a lot. Side note: I would like to know more about who accused Obama of being complicit in the attacks on 9/11. Given that he was a community organizer at the time, I find that bizarre that anyone would have stated anything of the kind and would be interested in seeing where you got that from.
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Do you actually agree with this garbage, SF?
 
Return of Dune said:
Post credible (not Fox News) links to where Sharia law has been held over U.S. law, and as to the pamplets, prove that the sidewalk was actualy public and not private property.

You do realize that muslims are allowed to judge themselves with Sharia law, even here, but that Sharia law has no jurisdiction in the U.S., unless you agree to abide by it, right?
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Thank you. What the hell is he talking about?
 
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Originally Posted by Alias
It's an "Arab festival" which is attended by Muslims in Dearborn, Mi. Do you want to see the video inside the festival with hateful muslims sptting and hitting christians? I have one to show you. You also didn't reply to my point about Sharia Law and the conflict of a separate set of laws for Muslims, which is unconstitutional. Do you care to comment on that or not?

Sure, I comment on it, though it is hardly worthy of the effort.

You seem to have completely inverted the intent of seperation of church and state.

Yes, there is a seperate set of laws for muslims, as there is for jews, and christians, and native americans as well.

The problem with your argument though is that muslims as well as all others in this country are ALSO ruled by U.S, state and local laws.

Sharia law does not replace laws here, and has no legal standing here. Never has, never will.

Now, how about those links?
 
Alias said:
It's wrong to allow Sharia Law in the USA even if muslims agree to abide by it. We cannot abide two sets of laws, one special set of laws for a religion and one set of laws for everyone else. That violates the separation of church and state. That is more evidence that the left will appease Islam, which is my main point. You can't see that? Our laws that are passed by our lawmakers who are elected by the people are for EVERYONE regardless of their religion. Only a dumb fucking lefty isn't able to see that.

Here is the video from the sidewalk incident.
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Excuse me, but there are laws of ritual and obligation in the Catholic and Episcopal Churches, and even more in Judaism....and no one complains about them. Why are you making a stink about the way Muslims practice Islam? Talk about separation of church and state. How convenient. You and your ilk want to rail because you insist on Christian prayer in schools and public events, but you want to castigate Muslims for practicing their religion as they see fit. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
 
Return of Dune said:
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Originally Posted by Alias
It's an "Arab festival" which is attended by Muslims in Dearborn, Mi. Do you want to see the video inside the festival with hateful muslims sptting and hitting christians? I have one to show you. You also didn't reply to my point about Sharia Law and the conflict of a separate set of laws for Muslims, which is unconstitutional. Do you care to comment on that or not?

Sure, I comment on it, though it is hardly worthy of the effort.

You seem to have completely inverted the intent of seperation of church and state.

Yes, there is a seperate set of laws for muslims, as there is for jews, and christians, and native americans as well.

The problem with your argument though is that muslims as well as all others in this country are ALSO ruled by U.S, state and local laws.

Sharia law does not replace laws here, and has no legal standing here. Never has, never will.

Now, how about those links?
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Indian tribes are natives and a separate nation. Islam is not a seperate nation in the USA. I don't know of any Christians or Jews who have a separate court system. You'll have to inform me of that.
 
Alias said:
It's wrong to allow Sharia Law in the USA even if muslims agree to abide by it. We cannot abide two sets of laws, one special set of laws for a religion and one set of laws for everyone else.
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If both parties agree to arbitration over a civil issue, they are following the law.

Alias said:
That violates the separation of church and state.
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Sharia law is not necessarily religious, it's just the kind of law that developed in the Islamic world.

Alias said:
That is more evidence that the left will appease Islam, which is my main point.
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I hate Islam.

Alias said:
You can't see that? Our laws that are passed by our lawmakers who are elected by the people are for EVERYONE regardless of their religion. Only a dumb fucking lefty isn't able to see that.
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Much of civil law and even criminal law isn't specifically passed by lawmakers. Anyway, arbitration by a third party is specifically allowed by our laws. I personally think arbitration should be banned, and our civil law system should be expedited, but that's just me. I don't support the system conservatives seem to, which seems to consist of allowing arbiters regulating arbiters to ensure that none of them have funny sounding names.
 
Alias said:
Indian tribes are natives and a separate nation. Islam is not a seperate nation in the USA. I don't know of any Christians or Jews who have a separate court system. You'll have to inform me of that.
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You don't? I am not surprised, since you are not very bright.

I'll try to make this clear;

All U.S. laws (fed, state, local) aply to everyone in this country, whether muslim, christian, martian or whatever, unless one holds diplomatic status.

No muslims are excempt from any of our laws, and Sharia law has is NOT recognised by ANY U.S. court.

As part of their religious freedom, they are entitled to practice their own laws as well, just as jews and christian may do. However, U.S. law always overides Sharia law, and always will.

You have nothing to fear from sharia law, nor do you have the right to oppose sharia law.
To do so violates seperation of church and state, as well as religious freedom.

You have been misled by Glen Beck and his ilk.

Had you chosen to think independently, we would not be having this argument, for you would have realized that Beck is nothing but a fear mongering money grubber.

Still no credible links I see.
 
Return of Dune said:
First of all, show where I said that. I didn't.
Second, even if you did "give me links" you really expect me to remember every blessed thing you have ever said or done?

What a fucking narcissist you are. Unbelievable.
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i expect you to remember the FACTS. not to keep challenging the claim every fucking time someone brings it up. if you can't remember simple facts, get your head checked.
 
Alias said:
You also didn't reply to my point about Sharia Law and the conflict of a separate set of laws for Muslims, which is unconstitutional.
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It's not a separate set of laws for Muslims. It's voluntary (a Muslim could choose not to and a non-Muslim could choose to), it's allowed by our laws, and sharia isn't necessarily religious.
 
Orange Order said:
It's not a separate set of laws for Muslims. It's voluntary (a Muslim could choose not to and a non-Muslim could choose to), it's allowed by our laws, and sharia isn't necessarily religious.
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sharia law by definition is religious. there is no separation of church and state in islam.
 
Alias said:
Indian tribes are natives and a separate nation. Islam is not a separate nation in the USA.
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Indian tribes are not a different state. State /= nation.

Alias said:
I don't know of any Christians or Jews who have a separate court system. You'll have to inform me of that.
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The law that developed in the Christian world is known as "common law" or "civil law". Regardless, again, it's not a "separate court system".
 
Orange Order said:
Indian tribes are not a different state. State /= nation.



The law that developed in the Christian world is known as "common law" or "civil law". Regardless, again, it's not a "separate court system".
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The catholic church most definitly has laws, as the jews.
 
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