WHY health care needed reform

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WHY did health care need reform? Because Wall Street took complete control of the health care industry. Profit driven incentives create REAL death panels for Americans. Insurance corporations are incentivized to deny patient coverage and push more and more of the costs onto consumers.

For anyone who wants an insider's knowledge of this, I recommend investing a half hour of your time to listen to what this man has to say...

Wendell Potter is former Vice President of corporate communications at CIGNA, one of the United States' largest health insurance companies. In June 2009, he testified against the HMO industry in the U.S. Senate.

Looking back over his long career, Potter sees an industry corrupted by Wall Street expectations and greed. According to Potter, insurers have every incentive to deny coverage — every dollar they don't pay out to a claim is a dollar they can add to their profits, and Wall Street investors demand they pay out less every year. Under these conditions, Potter says, "You don't think about individual people. You think about the numbers, and whether or not you're going to meet Wall Street's expectations."


Profits before Patients - Wendell Potter

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Following a 20-year career as a corporate public relations executive, Wendell left his position as head of communications for CIGNA, one of the nation’s largest health insurers, to help socially responsible organizations — including those advocating for meaningful health care reform — achieve their goals.

In widely covered testimony before the Senate Commerce, Science and Technology Committee in June of 2009, Wendell disclosed how insurance companies, as part of their efforts to boost profits, have engaged in practices that have resulted in millions of Americans being forced into the ranks of the uninsured. Wendell also described how the insurance industry has developed and implemented strategic communications plans, based on deceptive public relations, advertising and lobbying efforts, to defeat reform initiatives.

Since then Wendell has testified before two House committees, briefed several members of Congress and their staffs, appeared with members of Congress at several press conferences, spoken at more than 100 public forums, and has been the subject of numerous articles in the U.S. and foreign media.

At CIGNA, Wendell served in a variety of positions over 15 years, most recently as head of corporate communications and chief corporate spokesperson. Prior to joining CIGNA, Wendell headed communications at Humana Inc., another large for-profit health insurer. Before that he was director of public relations and advertising for the Baptist Health System of East Tennessee and a partner in an Atlanta public relations firm. He also serves as a consumer liaison representative for the National Association of Insurance Commissioners.

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“As one former insurance executive testified before Congress, insurance companies are not only encouraged to find reasons to drop the seriously ill; they are rewarded for it. All of this is in service of meeting what this former executive called, ‘Wall Street’s relentless profit expectations.’” — President Barack Obama, Remarks to Joint Session of Congress, September 9, 2009

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus
 
health care didn't need reform. the health insurance industry needed reform.

It's just common sense EVERY insurance company is going to try to find ways not to pay as their goal is to make a profit which means insurance companies should be completely removed from health care.
 
ad hom all you have when you get sucked in to the logic trap, isn't it?

we need to know what it is about making people take responsibility for their own actions that makes us morons. you have any answer for that?

accident

1. an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap: automobile accidents.

2. Law . such a happening resulting in injury that is in no way the fault of the injured person for which compensation or indemnity is legally sought.

3. any event that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate plan or cause.

4. chance; fortune; luck: I was there by accident.

5. a fortuitous circumstance, quality, or characteristic: an accident of birth.

Men often make up in wrath what they lack in reason.
W. R. Alger
 
don't you think that maybe people would become more responsible and self aware if they had to pay for any accidents they cause?

Nervous, yes. Overly cautious. Even a touch paranoid.

Haven't you seen enough of those drivers who, for example, arrive at a 4-way stop sign and even though they have the right-of-way just sit there causing others to have to wait? Or crawling through a construction area? Or waiting to make a left hand turn even though they have plenty of time before the oncoming traffic arrives? Or driving in the left hand lane, hands in the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock position, the look of terror on their faces?

Earlier this summer I was exiting a parking lot wanting to make a left hand turn on to the street. There was a car on the street, to my left, with his right flasher on wanting to turn into the lot I was exiting. He was stopped. I assume to let me leave although there was plenty of room for him to turn in.

In the other lane, the lane I wanted to enter, was a stopped car. Further ahead of him was a car wanting to exit a parking lot so I imagine the stopped car was letting the other car leave the lot and enter the street. So, we have one stopped car in the left lane wanting to turn into the lot I'm trying to exit, one in the right lane, one waiting to enter the right lane ahead of him and me, waiting to cross the left lane and enter the right lane. NOBODY MOVED!

Nobody signaled to other drivers. The car stopped in the right lane never waved to the guy trying to exit the parking lot nor did he wave to me to proceed. The three of them sat there like complete idiots waiting for one to make a move. Imagine if they had no insurance and were more careful. I'd still be sitting there!
 
accident

1. an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap: automobile accidents.

2. Law . such a happening resulting in injury that is in no way the fault of the injured person for which compensation or indemnity is legally sought.

3. any event that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate plan or cause.

4. chance; fortune; luck: I was there by accident.

5. a fortuitous circumstance, quality, or characteristic: an accident of birth.

Men often make up in wrath what they lack in reason.
W. R. Alger

all irrelevant having nothing to do with incidents on the road. 'accidents' are nothing more than lapses of attention resulting in damage to person or property. People look at these lapses as nothing more than mere inconvenience because 'insurance will pay for it'. again, lack of responsibility.
 
Nervous, yes. Overly cautious. Even a touch paranoid.

Haven't you seen enough of those drivers who, for example, arrive at a 4-way stop sign and even though they have the right-of-way just sit there causing others to have to wait? Or crawling through a construction area? Or waiting to make a left hand turn even though they have plenty of time before the oncoming traffic arrives? Or driving in the left hand lane, hands in the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock position, the look of terror on their faces?

Earlier this summer I was exiting a parking lot wanting to make a left hand turn on to the street. There was a car on the street, to my left, with his right flasher on wanting to turn into the lot I was exiting. He was stopped. I assume to let me leave although there was plenty of room for him to turn in.

In the other lane, the lane I wanted to enter, was a stopped car. Further ahead of him was a car wanting to exit a parking lot so I imagine the stopped car was letting the other car leave the lot and enter the street. So, we have one stopped car in the left lane wanting to turn into the lot I'm trying to exit, one in the right lane, one waiting to enter the right lane ahead of him and me, waiting to cross the left lane and enter the right lane. NOBODY MOVED!

Nobody signaled to other drivers. The car stopped in the right lane never waved to the guy trying to exit the parking lot nor did he wave to me to proceed. The three of them sat there like complete idiots waiting for one to make a move. Imagine if they had no insurance and were more careful. I'd still be sitting there!

none of the examples you cited are accidents. they are all lapses in attention or judgement due to not following the standard rules of the road. personal responsibility.
 
all irrelevant having nothing to do with incidents on the road. 'accidents' are nothing more than lapses of attention resulting in damage to person or property. People look at these lapses as nothing more than mere inconvenience because 'insurance will pay for it'. again, lack of responsibility.

You need to seek professional psychological help IMMEDIATELY.
 
Socialism is alive and well in the libtards. No wonder they can't get unemployment below 9 percent.

So, now insurance is socialism?

I guarantee a society without insurance will create an aristocracy faster than any political movement.
 
Forcing people to buy, and government controlling industry is. Obama with his 35 percent approval on the economy is on his way out bfged.
 
Forcing people to buy, and government controlling industry is. Obama with his 35 percent approval on the economy is on his way out bfged.

If Teapublicans gain control, the only thing on the way out is a middle class. WHY are you so blind to their agenda?
 
none of the examples you cited are accidents. they are all lapses in attention or judgement due to not following the standard rules of the road. personal responsibility.

I know they're not accidents. You asked in msg 6,
don't you think that maybe people would become more responsible and self aware if they had to pay for any accidents they cause?

And I told you what happens when people are insured. If they became any more cautious, which they would without insurance, it would be hell.
 
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