GOP could care less about jobs.

2. He mixes religion and politics openly and unapologetically.


Public declarations of faith are not an obstacle for presidential candidates. In some ways, they have practically become a requisite: an apparent lack of religious belief could be very damaging to a presidential campaign.


But Perry takes it several steps further.


For example, on Aug. 6, he held a prayer rally in Houston, which he concluded with the following: "Lord, you are the source of every good thing. You are our only hope. And we stand before you today in awe of your power and in gratitude for your blessings, in humility for our sins. Father, our heart breaks for America. We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see angers in the halls of government. And as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us, and for that we cry out for your forgiveness."


The potential political quicksand here was not the profession of belief or even the public prayer: it was the appeal for forgiveness because the United States had forgotten its debt to God and to the Christian faith. That raised a host of uncomfortable questions about the First Amendment and the separation of church and state.


In April, as Texas suffered through a drought more severe than anything it had seen since the Dust Bowl, Perry officially designated three days as "Days of Prayer for Rain in the State of Texas." His proclamation read in part, "Whereas throughout our history, both as a state and as individuals, Texans have been strengthened, assured and lifted up through prayer; it seems right and fitting that the people of Texas should join together in prayer to humbly seek an end to this devastating drought and these dangerous wildfires."


The three days of prayer did not bring rain -- more than four months later, the drought continues -- but they did bring public ridicule from Perry's critics, and they will likely be even more of a problem when it comes time to win over the general electorate, rather than just Republicans.




http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/208...-bachmann-republican-nomination-primaries.htm
 
1. He contradicts himself.


At first glance, Perry's positions seem rock-solidly consistent, if extreme.


He is a staunch supporter of states' rights, for example, and in July, he told reporters in Houston, "You either have to believe in the 10th Amendment or you don't. You can't believe in the 10th Amendment for a few issues and then something that doesn't suit you, say, 'We'd rather not have states decide that.'" An admirable principle -- except he hasn't followed it.


After New York legalized gay marriage in June, he stood by his words for a while. "You know what? That's New York, and that's their business, and that's fine with me. That is their call," he said. "If you believe in the 10th Amendment, stay out of their business."


But he soon changed his mind. "I do respect a state's right to have a different opinion and take a different tack, if you will. California did that," he said in August. "I respect that right, but our Founding Fathers also said, 'Listen, if you all in the future think things are so important that you need to change the Constitution, here's the way you do it.'"


It is rather difficult to reconcile that last statement -- that some things are "so important" that the federal government should override the states -- with his previous statement that a 10th Amendment advocate cannot just make an exception for "something that doesn't suit you."


Then there is his unwavering commitment to small government -- except when it comes to "homosexual sodomy," which Texas once banned.


The Supreme Court found the ban unconstitutional in its landmark Lawrence v. Texas ruling in 2003, and Perry was infuriated, even though the ruling was consistent with his own stated belief that the government should not interfere in individuals' personal lives.


As these and other inconsistencies come into the open, many supporters will stick with Perry regardless, but others will almost certainly walk away.




http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/208...-bachmann-republican-nomination-primaries.htm
 
Return of Dune said:
Can you honestly tell me you believe all of our problems are caused by dems/libs and all actions by Repubs/cons are lifeward and for the greater good?

It is a simple question, yes on no will suffice.
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I can honestly tell you that 90% of our problems are directly related to Democrat Socialist policy, and some of it was implemented with the willing assistance of the moderates in the GOP. No, the Republican party is not as pure as the driven snow, and the Democrat party the spawn of the devil. The parties are the parties... they do not operate of their own volition, they both depend on the leadership within the party, to steer the party in whichever direction, the party itself, really has no say so in the matter, it's up to the people who comprise the base. Currently, the base of the Democrat party is a bunch of radical Socialist Communists, no different than the Commies we fought for 60 years. Your other labels, like "progressives" or "liberals" are designed to fool moderates into thinking you are reasonable and rational people who can be dealt with. On the Republican side, moderates are the problem. The fence-sitting nitwits who can't decide if they are more Communist than American, or if they support Marxism over Capitalism. The brain-dead morons like John McCain, who think we can barter away our principles in order to "get along" with Communist Socialists.

Sorry I couldn't give you a "yes" or "no" answer, I know you have difficulty with multi-syllable words, especially if there is more than one. Unfortunately, you asked a question that isn't so simple. That's a problem, since you are incapable of understanding anything that isn't simple.
 
Dixie said:
I can honestly tell you that 90% of our problems are directly related to Democrat Socialist policy, and some of it was implemented with the willing assistance of the moderates in the GOP. No, the Republican party is not as pure as the driven snow, and the Democrat party the spawn of the devil. The parties are the parties... they do not operate of their own volition, they both depend on the leadership within the party, to steer the party in whichever direction, the party itself, really has no say so in the matter, it's up to the people who comprise the base. Currently, the base of the Democrat party is a bunch of radical Socialist Communists, no different than the Commies we fought for 60 years. Your other labels, like "progressives" or "liberals" are designed to fool moderates into thinking you are reasonable and rational people who can be dealt with. On the Republican side, moderates are the problem. The fence-sitting nitwits who can't decide if they are more Communist than American, or if they support Marxism over Capitalism. The brain-dead morons like John McCain, who think we can barter away our principles in order to "get along" with Communist Socialists. Sorry I couldn't give you a "yes" or "no" answer, I know you have difficulty with multi-syllable words, especially if there is more than one. Unfortunately, you asked a question that isn't so simple. That's a problem, since you are incapable of understanding anything that isn't simple.
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Translation: 'Maginary multimillionaire has no answer.
 
bravo said:


Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
So on the FIRST DAY that the Congress and Senate come back from vacation, the President wants to schedule a joint session to address them on his new proposed plan for creating jobs in America ASAP.

The President submits the formal request to the Majority Speaker of the House of Representatives....and about 4 hours later is told that ANOTHER time would be more convenient due to "security arrangement" matters and the like.

Since the early 1900's when President's started making actual visits to the House to address them, NO PRESIDENT'S REQUEST HAS EVER BEEN DENIED UNTIL NOW.

Interesting that the very political party that has been wailing for months that they are waiting for the President to present a plan for jobs in America SUDDENLY can't fit the President of the USA in for a quick address.

Now if one is to believe the GOP's favorite pundit Rush Limbaugh, Speaker Boehner rejected the initial request date in order to put Obama "in his place" and not let the President have the upper hand as taking a leadership position....especially since it would coincide with the first scheduled GOP Presidential candidacy debate.

This is just another example to the American people that the GOP is NOT about the general welfare of the people, but about the corporate welfare and secured economic greed of the wealthiest 1 to 3% of the population.
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Will Obama submit something to the Congress to read, debate, and vote on ?, or does he expect them to grade his speech ?

The last crap he submitted to Congress didn't even get ONE VOTE from Democrats.....how miserable is that...
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Get off the barstool and pay attention, my Bravo bumpkin.....The President made it clear he as to address both Houses on his plan for job stimulation in the country.....neither he nor Congress said anything about an immediate debate or vote.....THAT is to come via the schedules of the House & Senate. All the President is doing is giving them what they wanted...a half hour before they get down to business.

And the "crap" you're referring to contained so much capitulation to the neocon GOP agenda that the Dems said no way....and yet the GOP STILL voted against it! So again, the GOP is just full of shit...they want their agenda and Obama out.....the American economy by way of the middle and labor class be damned. Wake up and deal with it!
 
webbway said:
Obama was grandstanding, he knew full well the GOP debates were the same day. His stunt made him look the fool. If Obama was worried about jobs, maybe he should not have gone on vacation to Martha's Vineyards or cut down on all the golfing.
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Ahhh, the babblings of a brain dead neocon/teabagger. Nearly a century of formal courtesy and tradition thrown out by the neocon/teabagger driven GOP, and the Limbaugh lunkheads are bleating, "Obama is a fool". Of course, the GOP screaming "Where are the jobs? Where's the President's plan?" seems a hypocritical and foolish when the President wants to present one and they say, "not just now, we're kind of busy".

Poor Webbie, he can't handle the truth.
 
Damocles said:
I'm sure they could care less, of course the Obama Administration couldn't, unless they're with Solyndra... Jobs take second fiddle to Obama's plan for a "green economy".
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Converting to a green economy creates jobs, Damo....or do you think all those windmills, solar refits and such are going to happen magically without human input or infrastructure?
 
The Dude said:
What industry is Obama not attacking. Guitar makers, cell phone wireless, banks, oil companies.
He is jimma carta with a tan.
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WTF are you babbling about now, Dude? How the hell is wanting to have a joint session address to present a new plan to CREATE jobs "attacking" Guitar makers, cell phone wireless, banks, oil companies? Oh, and glad to see you're right on the Limbaugh bandwagon with the racially tinged derrogatory and demeaning remarks....speaks volumes as to what type of person you are. Carry on.
 
Dixie said:
Under Democrat control in 2008, they passed a massive $837 billion "stimulus" bill, which was supposed to create millions of "shovel ready jobs", or at least that is what Obama and the Democrats promised. Did you forget that or something?
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Ahhh, but since the stimulus you had the free fall towards depression severely stymied, the auto industry SAVED (with one company actually paying off it's loan), and about 200,000 fed jobs that Boehner couldn't give a damn about so long as the Bush tax cuts are kept intact....and remember, the GOP AGREED to the stimulus bill in it's final draft. Did YOU forget that or something?
 
The Dude said:
Funny how unemployment is lower under repubs. Something to due with not paying slackers for two years to smoke crack.
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Dude, YOU need to get the crack out of the pipe and THINK! Where the fuck do you think our recent economic disasters came from? And did you actually do some comparisons between job creation/unemployment rate from Reagan to Bush to Clinton To Bush?

Get your ass in gear, Dude. The GOP doesn't give a damn about YOU, as Boehner and company keep demonstrating time and again.
 
Dixie said:
No, what's funny is, Obama promised if we spent nearly a trillion taxpayer dollars, we'd create millions of shovel ready jobs... so we pass it, and in two and a half years, we've lost 2.5 million jobs. What's even funnier is, this same buffoon is going to claim we need to spend another trillion dollars to create another mythical million jobs, which will result in losing another 2.5 million jobs. ..... Obama should come up with a plan to destroy millions of jobs, then maybe when the opposite happens, we'll at least have jobs!
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Please provide the documented facts that prove EXACTLY what you say in no uncertain terms point for point. If you can't or won't, then you're just another neocon/teabagging toadie blowing smoke.
 
Liberty said:
The republicans are just as guilty for this mess.

And Obamas change was just a bunch of the same old stuff. No real change at all. Just more big job killing government.
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As if the libertarian lunkheads with their total privatization approach will solve everything.

Give me a fucking break.

The subject at hand is the GOP's painfully obvious hypocrisy in screaming about jobs and Obama not having a plan only to blow off the President's request for a joint session to address that very subject.
 
\\(\(\/)/)// said:
Has the GOP-dominated House passed a single job-creation bill?


Yes, or no?
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As you may have noticed, the current Gop dominated House has NOT passed on single "JOB CREATION" bill. After 8 years of no regulation, tax breaks and trickle down, the country is royally fucked economically...the GOP controlled House has NOT produced one bill that "creates jobs"...they just reinforce an already failed policy.

Our resident neocon/teabagger parrots won't cop to this...ever. They can't even handle the FACT of the GOP hypocrisy in blowing off the President's initial request for a joint session on the very issue they swear he has no plan for.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Get off the barstool and pay attention, my Bravo bumpkin.....The President made it clear he as to address both Houses on his plan for job stimulation in the country.....neither he nor Congress said anything about an immediate debate or vote.....THAT is to come via the schedules of the House & Senate. All the President is doing is giving them what they wanted...a half hour before they get down to business.

And the "crap" you're referring to contained so much capitulation to the neocon GOP agenda that the Dems said no way....and yet the GOP STILL voted against it! So again, the GOP is just full of shit...they want their agenda and Obama out.....the American economy by way of the middle and labor class be damned. Wake up and deal with it!
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Nice to see you have this inane conversation with yourself...funny dude....8 posts ?


We're all tired of Obama talking, talking, and talking some more...thats all he seems to do.....hes on TV 6 or 7 times a week, flying the shit out of AF1 and campaigning for re-election since Jan. of 2009...
He tried to get one actual bill passed by the Senate and not even ONE Democrat voted for it.....
The debate and vote will come when he actually presents something in writing to be debated and then voted on....they don't vote on speeches and don't debate speeches.....so get a fuckin' clue already....

" All the President is doing is giving them what they wanted "???

wtf are you talking about ....no one invited him to some special joint session on congress and prime time TV coverage...
It was his idea.....everyone is tired of his voice and want to see some freakin' action.....he might unpack his suitcase and get his ass into the oval office for a few hours and get the fuck to work with his pinheads elves in the Senate to present a plan ...ON FUCKING PAPER.....

Get you head out of his ass and take some notice of what he has really accomplished since Jan. 2009 and you'll some up with " nothing of importance..."

And really clara....we KNOW what his plan is going to be.....more stimulus, more spending, more borrowing, higher taxes, and more unemployment.....
 
Taichiliberal said:
As you may have noticed, the current Gop dominated House has NOT passed on single "JOB CREATION" bill. After 8 years of no regulation, tax breaks and trickle down, the country is royally fucked economically...the GOP controlled House has NOT produced one bill that "creates jobs"...they just reinforce an already failed policy.

Our resident neocon/teabagger parrots won't cop to this...ever. They can't even handle the FACT of the GOP hypocrisy in blowing off the President's initial request for a joint session on the very issue they swear he has no plan for.
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You may not have gotten through your boney head, its the Presidents job to lead the country, present solutions to problems, see if those fuckin' useless Czars can come up with idea ....

Its the job of the those that own 2/3 of government.....the Senate and Presidency.....the Senate hasn't passed a budget in almost 3 years....the Democrat dominated Senate....
 
Dixie said:
I can honestly tell you that 90% of our problems are directly related to Democrat Socialist policy, and some of it was implemented with the willing assistance of the moderates in the GOP. No, the Republican party is not as pure as the driven snow, and the Democrat party the spawn of the devil. The parties are the parties... they do not operate of their own volition, they both depend on the leadership within the party, to steer the party in whichever direction, the party itself, really has no say so in the matter, it's up to the people who comprise the base. Currently, the base of the Democrat party is a bunch of radical Socialist Communists, no different than the Commies we fought for 60 years. Your other labels, like "progressives" or "liberals" are designed to fool moderates into thinking you are reasonable and rational people who can be dealt with. On the Republican side, moderates are the problem. The fence-sitting nitwits who can't decide if they are more Communist than American, or if they support Marxism over Capitalism. The brain-dead morons like John McCain, who think we can barter away our principles in order to "get along" with Communist Socialists.

Sorry I couldn't give you a "yes" or "no" answer, I know you have difficulty with multi-syllable words, especially if there is more than one. Unfortunately, you asked a question that isn't so simple. That's a problem, since you are incapable of understanding anything that isn't simple.
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The Dixie Dunce Rides Again!

Notice that Dixie just can't deal with the FACT of the GOP's hypocrisy in blowing off the President's initial request for a joint session address on the very subject the swear he had NO plan for but the country desparately needed to hear about.

Oh, and someone clue in our Dixie Dunce the differences between socialism and capitalism and how the Democratic & Republican party have practiced a little of both over the years (unless Dixie did NOT cash in his two welfare, "stimulus" checks the Shrub gave him). And someone PLEASE explain to this dumb Dixie the difference between communism, capitalism and socialism? I tried, but it didn't take.
 
Taichiliberal said:
The Dixie Dunce Rides Again!

Notice that Dixie just can't deal with the FACT of the GOP's hypocrisy in blowing off the President's initial request for a joint session address on the very subject the swear he had NO plan for but the country desparately needed to hear about.

Oh, and someone clue in our Dixie Dunce the differences between socialism and capitalism and how the Democratic & Republican party have practiced a little of both over the years (unless Dixie did NOT cash in his two welfare, "stimulus" checks the Shrub gave him). And someone PLEASE explain to this dumb Dixie the difference between communism, capitalism and socialism? I tried, but it didn't take.
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You gotta be pretty dense to say that when the government gives you back some of the money they first took from you, its welfare or socialism.....
 
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