Dr. King Weeps From His Grave - Op-Ed by Dr. Cornel West for the NYT

[SmarterthanYou]

What is that supposed to prove? Is the implication that these black men are "tea baggers", and therefore, lend credibility to the movement , as a "non-racist" political group or entity? BS.
They are de facto "Stephin Fetchits", misguided , and apologists for white racists, who see Barack Obama as an abomination...they are "house negroes", who would inform "Massa" of the field negroes trying to escape. Race traitors, to be exact. Sellouts.

And is there a problem? You didn't answer my question. Did I get it wrong? Are you something other than white?

actually I was trying to gauge what you considered white. you said that TEA party militia types were hallmarks of a white person, so I posted two pictures of people I thought were black to gauge on whether I was right or you were. Your references to stephen fetchits and house negroes simply clarifies that my secondary impression of you as a racist were right on the money. With that in mind, I would say that it imposes serious questions and doubts to your claim of being enlightened and having class.

 

[poet]

actually I was trying to gauge what you considered white. you said that TEA party militia types were hallmarks of a white person, so I posted two pictures of people I thought were black to gauge on whether I was right or you were. Your references to stephen fetchits and house negroes simply clarifies that my secondary impression of you as a racist were right on the money. With that in mind, I would say that it imposes serious questions and doubts to your claim of being enlightened and having class.

Oh, no.....your assessment is totally "off-base". The Tea Party militia types "are", basically, white, and generally "racist". (Who would you need a gun for, in the first place? Criminals, right? And those could only be "black folks", right...trying to invade your space, correct? See? It's not rocket science. And you still didn't answer the mf'ing question. Why? Is it so hard to admit that I was right? I understand.
And me, calling out my own, on their "selling out", hardly amounts to racism on my part, but calling folks into "accountablity". What's racist about calling blacks out who support whites over their own? Not "over their own". Wouldn't you support your own over any other group? Don't you do it everyday? I hardly need a white person (and I don't need for you to verify whether you're white or not...your rhetoric did it for you, but I already knew, before that...because I'm insightful and smart). And some classless hick, coming to the conclusion that based on my conclusions drawn, signifies that I am neither enlightened nor possessing class, fazes me not. You're not in any position to judge me, me, possessing "class" and the superior intellect.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Oh, no.....your assessment is totally "off-base". The Tea Party militia types "are", basically, white, and generally "racist". (Who would you need a gun for, in the first place? Criminals, right? And those could only be "black folks", right...trying to invade your space, correct? See? It's not rocket science. And you still didn't answer the mf'ing question. Why? Is it so hard to admit that I was right? I understand.

no, I don't think you do understand. see, your issue is that you like to base all your positions on generalizations and prejudices. what you fail to realize is that there are always exceptions to every rule. That doesn't help your claim of 'enlightenment' any at all. see, i've been around 'enlightened' people....alot. 98% of them are as full of shit and just as stuck up as you seem to be.

And me, calling out my own, on their "selling out", hardly amounts to racism on my part, but calling folks into "accountablity". What's racist about calling blacks out who support whites over their own? Not "over their own". Wouldn't you support your own over any other group?

what is 'your own' or 'their own'? what is 'my own'? this is how we know you're racist. because you call out blacks who support whites. it's ok to accept the fact that you're racist. You just can't be racist and 'enlightened' at the same time. those two don't go well together.

Don't you do it everyday?

no, I do not. But don't let that stop you from making assumptions all day. especially from what I see of you below. See, I couldn't care any more or less if you're black, white, red, yellow, or brown. I was born and raised in small little podunk town so didn't get much exposure to racism. My first real experiences with people of different races came in technical school. There, race didn't matter much to anyone because we were all geeks.

I hardly need a white person (and I don't need for you to verify whether you're white or not...your rhetoric did it for you, but I already knew, before that...because I'm insightful and smart). And some classless hick, coming to the conclusion that based on my conclusions drawn, signifies that I am neither enlightened nor possessing class, fazes me not. You're not in any position to judge me, me, possessing "class" and the superior intellect.

so I tell you what. You go on thinking you're enlightened and better than everyone else and we'll all continue knowing that you're really just a racist punk who's trying to pretend he's someone he's not. sound good for you? because it works for me.

 

[poet]

no, I don't think you do understand. see, your issue is that you like to base all your positions on generalizations and prejudices. what you fail to realize is that there are always exceptions to every rule. That doesn't help your claim of 'enlightenment' any at all. see, i've been around 'enlightened' people....alot. 98% of them are as full of shit and just as stuck up as you seem to be.

That is your opinion, for what it is worth, to which you're entitled.

what is 'your own' or 'their own'? what is 'my own'? this is how we know you're racist. because you call out blacks who support whites. it's ok to accept the fact that you're racist. You just can't be racist and 'enlightened' at the same time. those two don't go well together.

Oh, please. How pollyanna. My own is family, and tradition, and culture, and yes, race. Your own is the same. Support whites? I support whites, moron. But I don't support "racist whites", who mean me harm or ill-will, or indifference. I call out those blacks that do. Nothing racist about it. I'm looking out for my best interests. It's clear you're not looking out for my best interests.
And of course, one cannot be "enlightened" and racist, at the same time. Duh. Proves that I am the former, and hardly the latter.

no, I do not. But don't let that stop you from making assumptions all day. especially from what I see of you below. See, I couldn't care any more or less if you're black, white, red, yellow, or brown. I was born and raised in small little podunk town so didn't get much exposure to racism. My first real experiences with people of different races came in technical school. There, race didn't matter much to anyone because we were all geeks.
Really, then we should have , at least ,"that' in common. Sad, but that wouldn't be enough to embrace the likes of you. Being a geek and a tea bagger..don't go well together.
so I tell you what. You go on thinking you're enlightened and better than everyone else and we'll all continue knowing that you're really just a racist punk who's trying to pretend he's someone he's not. sound good for you? because it works for me.

LOL. Think whatever you like. I define myself, and am not defined by others. I am "better than most", but not because of the reasons you think. For me to be truly racist, I would have to reject all whites, regardless of ideology, or common interests. I do not. I'm a humanist. I embrace humanity...provided they play by the rules we all have to observe. You choose otherwise. C'est la vie.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

That is your opinion, for what it is worth, to which you're entitled.

and you can choose to ignore the facts at your convenience. just by your posts in this thread alone, i've proven you a hypocrite and a racist.

Oh, please. How pollyanna. My own is family, and tradition, and culture, and yes, race. Your own is the same. Support whites? I support whites, moron. But I don't support "racist whites", who mean me harm or ill-will, or indifference. I call out those blacks that do. Nothing racist about it. I'm looking out for my best interests. It's clear you're not looking out for my best interests.

yes, you can support 'whites', but again just by what you have posted in this thread alone, the whites you support would be people like topspin, who also throw the race card in your own best interests. that's not really support though, that's just racist.

And of course, one cannot be "enlightened" and racist, at the same time. Duh. Proves that I am the former, and hardly the latter.

logic and reality really doesn't strike your fancy, does it?

Really, then we should have , at least ,"that' in common. Sad, but that wouldn't be enough to embrace the likes of you. Being a geek and a tea bagger..don't go well together.

i'm sure that in your 'enlightened' mind, TEA people wouldn't go well with anything. closed minded much?

LOL. Think whatever you like. I define myself, and am not defined by others. I am "better than most", but not because of the reasons you think. For me to be truly racist, I would have to reject all whites, regardless of ideology, or common interests. I do not. I'm a humanist. I embrace humanity...provided they play by the rules we all have to observe. You choose otherwise. C'est la vie.

i again refer to your total disregard for reality.

 

[poet]

and you can choose to ignore the facts at your convenience. just by your posts in this thread alone, i've proven you a hypocrite and a racist.

yes, you can support 'whites', but again just by what you have posted in this thread alone, the whites you support would be people like topspin, who also throw the race card in your own best interests. that's not really support though, that's just racist.

logic and reality really doesn't strike your fancy, does it?

i'm sure that in your 'enlightened' mind, TEA people wouldn't go well with anything. closed minded much?

i again refer to your total disregard for reality.

Rationalization doesn't equal legitimacy.

 

[poet]

Double post.