Will Irene be Obamas Katrina?

[Damocles]

Have you seen the reports of flooding, property damage, etc. in various states today? I would tell the telegraph the same thing I told Damo:

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...l-Irene-be-Obamas-Katrina&p=860630#post860630

And I will repeat. Have you ever heard of flooding that happened when there was no hurricane? My bet is you have, you just don't want to admit it. My guess is you don't even realize that flooding along the Mississippi has been happening all year without any hurricanes...

Do you believe that the tropical storm that hit Virginia was a hurricane?

Personally for myself and family, we are thankful it wasn't a hurricane, that would have been far more devastating. Even a sustained Cat 1 would have been worse than what hit and would have merited the hype. It's unfortunate we haven't gotten any better in the past 20 years at predicting the strength of a storm when it will hit.

 

[Phantasmal]

Huh?

 

[Taichiliberal]

And I will repeat. Have you ever heard of flooding that happened when there was no hurricane? My bet is you have, you just don't want to admit it. My guess is you don't even realize that flooding along the Mississippi has been happening all year without any hurricanes...

And I will repeat: WTF is the matter with you? Would you have preferred the people to returned to flooded out areas, or stay in the houses that got smashed by trees, or get zapped by fallen power lines? No one said flooding doesn't happen somewhere during a hurricane, so all your guesses and bets are based on BS YOU interjected into this conversation. And yes, since I pay attention to various news services, I was aware of the Mississippi flooding, as well as other natural disasters that happened throughout the country.

Do you believe that the tropical storm that hit Virginia was a hurricane?

Do you believe that you are not coming off as a boorish git with this picayune whining of yours? As our local news coverage explained when the category was lowered from hurricane to tropical storm, the winds and rains could be as dangerous. Judging from the various reports of damages from NC to VT, I dare say they were right. Thank GOD it wasn't worse.

Personally for myself and family, we are thankful it wasn't a hurricane, that would have been far more devastating. Even a sustained Cat 1 would have been worse than what hit and would have merited the hype. It's unfortunate we haven't gotten any better in the past 20 years at predicting the strength of a storm when it will hit.

Yes, yes, yes......and no matter HOW much you beat this horse of yours to death, you cannot change the fact that the precautionary measures DID pay off with regards to life, as the category dropped in the nick of time....and for that, I can live with a little annoying hyperbole. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Phantasmal]

Hey Christie, welcome back!

A tree fell across the street from the family home....crashed right through their fence and came down across the street to rest on the power/telelphone lines. Miraculously, the lines held...which was a good thing because they kept my brother's parked car from being crushed. As I right this, the county inspectors came by and let us know they'll get to us ASAP....and as I write this the tree is STILL leaning on those lines. Crazy thing is, we didn't lose ANY power during the storm or now. Talk about counting your blessings!

Glad you are okay!

 

[Damocles]

Yes, yes, yes......and no matter HOW much you beat this horse of yours to death, you cannot change the fact that the precautionary measures DID pay off with regards to life, as the category dropped in the nick of time....and for that, I can live with a little annoying hyperbole. Better safe than sorry.

And no matter how often you try to believe that this was effectively the same thing as Katrina, it never will be, the comparison is childlike in its simplicity. And we all thank the little gods for that, at least those of us with brains (and those unaffected by OWS) do. Had Katrina left behind an equal amount of damage as Irene, it isn't likely that FEMA presence would have been the focus and Watermark wouldn't be crying over how awesome Katrina was...

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal

Yes, yes, yes......and no matter HOW much you beat this horse of yours to death, you cannot change the fact that the precautionary measures DID pay off with regards to life, as the category dropped in the nick of time....and for that, I can live with a little annoying hyperbole. Better safe than sorry.

And no matter how often you try to believe that this was effectively the same thing as Katrina, it never will be, the comparison is childlike in its simplicity. And we all thank the little gods for that, at least those of us with brains (and those unaffected by OWS) do. Had Katrina left behind an equal amount of damage as Irene, it isn't likely that FEMA presence would have been the focus and Watermark wouldn't be crying over how awesome Katrina was...

As the chronology of the post shows, I NEVER COMPARED IRENE TO KATRINA. So spare us your insipidly stubborn BS dodges and lies, Damo, and just accept the FACT that you made an incorrect statement that I called you on. YOU cannot defend your kvetching....I mean, WTF is bothering you, that Irene wasn't a category 2 and had a higher body count? Grow the fuck up, Damo, every mind fart you have can't be right.

 

[Damocles]

As the chronology of the post shows, I NEVER COMPARED IRENE TO KATRINA. So spare us your insipidly stubborn BS dodges and lies, Damo, and just accept the FACT that you made an incorrect statement that I called you on. YOU cannot defend your kvetching....I mean, WTF is bothering you, that Irene wasn't a category 2 and had a higher body count? Grow the fuck up, Damo, every mind fart you have can't be right.

Yet you act as if I wasn't comparing those two in my posts in the thread directly comparing the two, and that you weren't participating in the conversation.

Again, I didn't say Irene didn't damage anything, just that it wasn't a hurricane when it hit and that the comparison between Katrina and Irene is like comparing stinkweed and roses. Yeah, they're both plants, but there's only one kind you want to give to your wife.

The idea that posts are made in vacuum seems to be solely a fantasy of the left, this isn't a "mind fart", but it is accurate. Irene was not a hurricane when it hit, and the damage level is less because of that, and the post you linked to where you were "telling me" something was in a thread comparing Irene and Katrina.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Again, I didn't say Irene didn't damage anything, just that it wasn't a hurricane when it hit and that the comparison between Katrina and Irene is like comparing stinkweed and roses. Yeah, they're both plants, but there's only one kind you want to give to your wife.

The idea that posts are made in vacuum seems to be solely a fantasy of the left, this isn't a "mind fart", but it is accurate. Irene was not a hurricane when it hit, and the damage level is less because of that, and the post you linked to where you were "telling me" something was in a thread comparing Irene and Katrina.

Despite the desperate, disingenuous denials of Damocles the dancin' Dalai, Irene was a hurricane "when it hit".

• It hit North Carolina as a hurricane.

• It hit Virginia as a hurricane.

• It hit New Jersey as a hurricane.

Hurricane Irene of 2011 was a large and powerful Atlantic hurricane that left extensive flood and wind damage along its path as far north as Atlantic Canada.


By August 21, it moved very close to Saint Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands.


The next day Irene made landfall at hurricane strength near Puerto Rico, where high winds and intermittent torrents caused significant property damage.


After crossing the Turks and Caicos Islands, the hurricane quickly strengthened into a Category 3 major hurricane while passing through the Bahamas, leaving behind a trail of extensive structural damage in its wake.


Curving toward the north, Irene made landfall over Eastern North Carolina's Outer Banks on the morning of August 27 and moved along southeastern Virginia, affecting the Hampton Roads region.


After briefly reemerging over water, Irene made a second US landfall near Little Egg Inlet in New Jersey during the morning of August 28, becoming the first hurricane to make landfall in the state since 1903.


Irene was downgraded to a tropical storm as it made its third U.S. landfall in the Coney Island area of Brooklyn, New York, at approximately 9:00 a.m on August 28.


Considerable damage occurred in New York State and in Vermont, which suffered from the worst flooding in centuries.


Throughout its path, Irene caused widespread destruction. Early damage estimates in the US are about $7 billion.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Irene_(2011)

Now, dance, Damocles.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
As the chronology of the post shows, I NEVER COMPARED IRENE TO KATRINA. So spare us your insipidly stubborn BS dodges and lies, Damo, and just accept the FACT that you made an incorrect statement that I called you on. YOU cannot defend your kvetching....I mean, WTF is bothering you, that Irene wasn't a category 2 and had a higher body count? Grow the fuck up, Damo, every mind fart you have can't be right.

Yet you act as if I wasn't comparing those two in my posts in the thread directly comparing the two, and that you weren't participating in the conversation.

Go back and follow the chronology of the posts, Damo. I'm not "acting", merely responding TO THE SPECIFIC STATEMENT that YOU made. I've never deviated from that initial response to date. YOU, on the other hand, seem to think the neocon shuffle works for you....and thus you LIE about what has transpired, as I've pointed out previously.

Again, I didn't say Irene didn't damage anything, just that it wasn't a hurricane when it hit and that the comparison between Katrina and Irene is like comparing stinkweed and roses. Yeah, they're both plants, but there's only one kind you want to give to your wife.

Again, I didn't accuse you of saying Irene didn't damage anything, nor did I allude to anything like you making a comparison between Katrina and Irene. What I DID point out is that you're essentially trying to blow up a moot point into a justified whine/bitch/rant regarding the hyperbole used for the preperation prior to Irene hitting land. Again, the chronology of the posts bares witness to what I state here.

The idea that posts are made in vacuum seems to be solely a fantasy of the left, this isn't a "mind fart", but it is accurate. Again, this is YOUR idea, not mine....and it's an "idea" born of petty desperation on your part to avoid admitting the validity of the criticism of your statement. Irene was not a hurricane when it hit, and the damage level is less because of that, and the post you linked to where you were "telling me" something was in a thread comparing Irene and Katrina.

Again, you state a moot point and then misrepresent what the content of my link was initially about. The chronology of the posts shows what I was specifically responding to in Post #39. Since then, the only "link" I provided was to a previous post that follows up what YOU specifically responded to me about, you lame ass attempt to hide your error in the general topic is just that....lame. YOU made a specific statement that was NOT wholly dependent upon the initial subject title directive....it was wrong, and I called you on it.


But what's interesting is your premise that since Irene didn't turn out to be Katrina, there was no comparison. Note from my previous responses that the change to Irene came at the 11th hour.....so governors and mayors had to prep for a category 3 or 2.....they did, and erred on the side of caution. Given the aftermath, like in Vermont, I'd say it was a small error....almost as small as your point of contention. Carry on.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

...Do you believe that the tropical storm that hit Virginia was a hurricane? ...

Because when it hit Virginia it was a hurricane?

As has been amply proven several times in these discussions, Irene hit the Outer Banks as a Category 1 hurricane and maintained that status until it made its third mainland landfall at Coney Island, Brooklyn NY.


Of course, I'm sure that in rugged, individualist places like eastern Colorado its winds would've been considered a slight breeze, because of the daily occurence of hurricane-force winds there.


Dance some more.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Because when it hit Virginia it was a hurricane?

As has been amply proven several times in these discussions, Irene hit the Outer Banks as a Category 1 hurricane and maintained that status until it made its third mainland landfall at Coney Island, Brooklyn NY.


Of course, I'm sure that in rugged, individualist places like eastern Colorado its winds would've been considered a slight breeze, because of the daily occurence of hurricane-force winds there.


Dance some more.