Sharp contrast between Bush handeling of Katrina v. Obama's handeling of Hurricane...

Jarod

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I know President Obama is not very popular, generally popularity is not a measure of ability or quality of job done.....

But here we were facing a smaller storm, the Right was all over Obama for taking a vacation, and president Obama leaves his vacation to be at the NHC so he can monitor the situation and be in the game.....

Bush was on vacation for Katrina, it was devistating as predicted by the NHC. Bush did not leave his vacation early, in fact he stayed on vaca for 3 more days, then flew over New Orleans from the comfort of Air Force One to assess the damage.... Then told Brownie, the man who was a champion horse breeder prior to getting the political appointment to be head of FEMA, how he was doing a "heck of a job."!
 
Superfreak said:
yeah... turns out one was a massive hurricane, the other a tropical storm.
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Even more evidence of how much more seriously President Obama took a less serious situation than Bush took a more serious situation.
 
Jarod said:
Even more evidence of how much more seriously President Obama took a less serious situation than Bush took a more serious situation.
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Or did he make it out to be a more severe storm than it was so that he could finally look like a leader by 'taking charge' of a tropical storm?
 
Superfreak said:
Or did he make it out to be a more severe storm than it was so that he could finally look like a leader by 'taking charge' of a tropical storm?
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Sure thing, SF - he controls what the weathermen & women say.

You guys are really braindead sometimes...
 
Jarod said:
Even more evidence of how much more seriously President Obama took a less serious situation than Bush took a more serious situation.
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just curious, but is this Obama making the case that the states are no longer capable of handling weather emergencies? Does he consider governors that incompetent?
 
Damocles said:
I've noticed that there is often flooding during storms that are not hurricanes. Have you ever noticed that?
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Well, Irene was a hurricane, the flooding was pretty bad in some states, lots of folks don't care what causes the flooding - it's the flooding that matters, and even more folks care about what happens in NYC, since it's the financial & business capitol of the U.S.

So, your batting average in trying to downplay this is kind of low...
 
Yurt said:
we get it, jarod and onceler think obama is the messiah
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Figured this thread would get under your skin. I actually don't think he's the messiah - but he handled Irene well, which stands in stark contrast to another famous hurricane & President.

Too bad you're so partisan that you can't give him a little bit of credit on that...
 
Onceler said:
Figured this thread would get under your skin. I actually don't think he's the messiah - but he handled Irene well, which stands in stark contrast to another famous hurricane & President.

Too bad you're so partisan that you can't give him a little bit of credit on that...
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what did Obama do to handle Irene?
 
this is bush's fault:

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SmarterThanYou said:
what did Obama do to handle Irene?
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Cut his vacation short & monitored it pretty much constantly; FEMA was universally praised by local officials for their proactive involvement and responsiveness.

Again - all in pretty stark contrast. That's basically the President's role during something like this.
 
Onceler said:
Figured this thread would get under your skin. I actually don't think he's the messiah - but he handled Irene well, which stands in stark contrast to another famous hurricane & President.

Too bad you're so partisan that you can't give him a little bit of credit on that...
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he left his vacation early, good for him. to compare the two hurricane's is nothing short of partisan hackery. what did obama do different than bush?

and really, you shouldn't be calling anyone a hack as the only thing you give bush credit for is anything negative.
 
Onceler said:
Cut his vacation short & monitored it pretty much constantly; FEMA was universally praised by local officials for their proactive involvement and responsiveness.

Again - all in pretty stark contrast. That's pretty much the President's role during something like this.
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and bush wasn't monitoring katrina? wow....just wow.
 
Superfreak said:
Or did he make it out to be a more severe storm than it was so that he could finally look like a leader by 'taking charge' of a tropical storm?
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Oh, stop, this is ridiculous, each governor handle his states issues admirably and they were prepared and the federal government was able to respond as necessary.

I for one am glad they were prepared for the worst and it didn't happen.
 
Yurt said:
he left his vacation early, good for him. to compare the two hurricane's is nothing short of partisan hackery. what did obama do different than bush?

and really, you shouldn't be calling anyone a hack as the only thing you give bush credit for is anything negative.
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Like it or not, Katrina has become synonymous w/ executive incompetence.

Bush was slow to react, slow to update, slow to respond and slow to understand the urgency. At a time that required immediate, forceful leadership, he was basically absent.

And let's not get started on the horse guy/pal who he put in charge of FEMA. The results of that can be gauged easily in the criticism of FEMA during Katrina, and the praise for FEMA during Irene.

In short, your apologism doesn't have a leg to stand on.
 
all bush's fault?

9:30 a.m. - With wind speeds reaching 175 mph, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin orders a mandatory evacuation of the city. The evacuation call comes only 20 hours before Katrina would make landfall – less than half the time that researchers had determined was necessary to evacuate the city.

8:30 p.m. - An empty Amtrak train leaves New Orleans, with room for several hundred potential evacuees. "We offered the city the opportunity to take evacuees out of harm's way…The city declined," said Amtrak spokesman Cliff Black. The train left New Orleans no passengers on board.

http://www.factcheck.org/article348.html

if you click the link, you can see onceler is full of meadowmuffins claiming bush wasn't monitoring katrina...
 
Yurt is so defensive about Bush; the argument becomes about "it's all Bush's fault," which is incredibly misleading.

This thread is about the contrast between 2 Presidents during a weather crisis. You can bet that if FEMA blew it or was being criticized right now, Yurt would have a good 5-6 threads going already on that.
 
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