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Black Folks, The Recession, & The Middle Class - Blog by Rippa for I.of R.& M.

Black Folks, The Recession, & The Middle Class
Aug 19, 2011 by Rippa


"Whenever you hear the term Middle Class used in the media, it’s probably a good idea to know that the term isn’t inclusive of people of color. Reality is: there’s a Middle Class, and well, there’s a “Middle Class” for everybody else. So when you hear the phrase tossed about that the Middle Class is shrinking, just know that for people of color that joker ain’t shrinking – it’s damn near disappeared. Oh you don’t believe me? Maybe you haven’t been paying attention to what’s going on or how “great” people of color are faring these days.
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Just take a look at the picture above of the thousands of folks lined up in the southern heat attempting to find employment at the CBC’s job fair in Atlanta. Once upon a time Atlanta was the place to be for upwardly mobile African Americans; but today, not so much now, is it? Plainly speaking: things are bad now, but the long-term unemployment faced by communities of color will have a very negative effect in the near future once this recovery is over.

Think of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. The city has never quite been the same nor did it return to pre-Katrina form has it? As a matter of fact, studies show that the event has left many psychologically and mentally scarred, with many of them being children. Surely we all remember Hurricane Katrina; well folks, the current economic turmoil and extended joblessness within communities of color is our collective Hurricane Katrina. And the truth is: like New Orleans, we’ll forever be changed; and, we’ll never be the same again



Read Don Peck’s piece, How a New Jobless Era Will Transform America:

he unemployment rate hit 10 percent in October, and there are good reasons to believe that by 2011, 2012, even 2014, it will have declined only a little. Late last year, the average duration of unemployment surpassed six months, the first time that has happened since 1948, when the Bureau of Labor Statistics began tracking that number. As of this writing, for every open job in the U.S., six people are actively looking for work.

All of these figures understate the magnitude of the jobs crisis. The broadest measure of unemployment and underemployment (which includes people who want to work but have stopped actively searching for a job, along with those who want full-time jobs but can find only part-time work) reached 17.4 percent in October, which appears to be the highest figure since the 1930s. And for large swaths of society—young adults, men, minorities—that figure was much higher (among teenagers, for instance, even the narrowest measure of unemployment stood at roughly 27 percent). One recent survey showed that 44 percent of families had experienced a job loss, a reduction in hours, or a pay cut in the past year.

There is unemployment, a brief and relatively routine transitional state that results from the rise and fall of companies in any economy, and there is unemployment—chronic, all-consuming. The former is a necessary lubricant in any engine of economic growth. The latter is a pestilence that slowly eats away at people, families, and, if it spreads widely enough, the fabric of society. Indeed, history suggests that it is perhaps society’s most noxious ill.

The worst effects of pervasive joblessness—on family, politics, society—take time to incubate, and they show themselves only slowly. But ultimately, they leave deep marks that endure long after boom times have returned. Some of these marks are just now becoming visible, and even if the economy magically and fully recovers tomorrow, new ones will continue to appear. The longer our economic slump lasts, the deeper they’ll be.

If it persists much longer, this era of high joblessness will likely change the life course and character of a generation of young adults—and quite possibly those of the children behind them as well. It will leave an indelible imprint on many blue-collar white men—and on white culture. It could change the nature of modern marriage, and also cripple marriage as an institution in many communities. It may already be plunging many inner cities into a kind of despair and dysfunction not seen for decades. Ultimately, it is likely to warp our politics, our culture, and the character of our society for years. (read more)"

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-new-jobless-era-will-transform-america/7919/
 
Why don't you take a look at how many can read at even an eight grade level

Why don't you take a look at how many don't have drug problems,..using and selling

Why don't you take a look at how many don't have a prison record

Why don't you take a look at how many can speak English with basic correct grammar

Why don't you take a look at how many graduate from high school.....

and this pertains to whites, blacks, Asians, etc....
 
Why don't you take a look at how many can read at even an eight grade level

Why don't we take a look at how and where funds are allocated for education...and who receives aid and assistance and who doesn't?

Why don't you take a look at how many don't have drug problems,..using and selling


Why don't we look at the failed "war on drugs" , and try to understand how and why cocaine comes into this country? There is no war on drugs. There is opportunity and complicity. Drugs are to keep folks distracted, and fodder for the corrupt , unfair criminal justice system. Wake up. Why don't you take a look at how many don't have a prison record

Why don't you take a look at how many can speak English with basic correct grammar

Why don't we look at how teachers are underpaid, and how infrastructure is failing, because funds for education are being cut , instead of increased?

Why don't you take a look at how many graduate from high school.....


Why don't we look at how family units are destroyed or decimated because there are no external outlets to counter the stresses? When you don't have community working together to support the family, then you have broken families, and kids that don't graduate.and this pertains to whites, blacks, Asians, etc....

Excluding "white privilege".
 
Before you complain about the amount of money spent on education, you
ought to know wtf you're talking about...

http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/10facts/edlite-chart.html#1
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Then .... are you really gonna blame the governments not putting more people in prison for using and dealing drugs is the problem ? Are you fuckin serious ?
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Teachers are not underpaid....case closed....
the failure of students is the students fault....
Whites learn, Asians learn, Hispanics learn, children all over the world learn...
except for some in the US ....same teachers, same pay, same classrooms, same text books.....so get a clue
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The breakdown of family units isn't the responsibility of teachers or the government.....the people raised and schooled in '50 and '60 and '70's learned with a lot less, less pay, less books, less teachers, less everything...
I attended school with one teacher for grades 1 to 4 and another teacher for grades 5 thru 8.....
My Father enjoyed a whole 6 years of school and ended up a heavy equipment master mechanic before he died....

You're a moron looking to blame others for everything you see wrong....look in the mirror sonny
 
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Before you complain about the amount of money spent on education, you
ought to know wtf you're talking about...

http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/10facts/edlite-chart.html#1


Are you stupid or what? Where do you think the cuts just voted for for the debt ceiling to be increased came from? Education, Programs for the poor and children, and entitlements. Rick Perry, himself, cut education funds in Texas, alone. Talk about what you know.
Then .... are you really gonna blame the governments not putting more people in prison for using and dealing drugs is the problem ? Are you fuckin serious ?


Using and dealing drugs? How the hell do you suppose the drugs get in here? It's because they are allowed in, a certain percentage, in order to keep disenfranchised people "doped up" and distracted, so they can be manipulated and taken advantage of. Are you fucking serious? Ain't nobody stupid, except, perhaps "you". The war on drugs is the biggest hoax in history. There is no war.
They just changed the laws that were on the books for years, making rock cocaine less (used by the poor and minorites) egregious a crime as powder cocaine (used by whites and the rich). How many fucking minorities druggies were sentenced to way too many years behind bars, while whites got slaps on the wrists? Millions. Tens of millions. The criminal justice system is just institutionalized slavery. And I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Locking minorities up means "money". Prisons mean "money". Moron.


Teachers are not underpaid....case closed....
the failure of students is the students fault....
Whites learn, Asians learn, Hispanics learn, children all over the world learn...
except for some in the US ....same teachers, same pay, same classrooms, same text books.....so get a clue

Teachers are among the most underpaid, most important employees in the nation. I should know, my mother was a elementary school teacher in the Chicago and Houston School systems.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home2/52405210-183/teachers-utah-percent-salaries.html.csp
http://www.squidoo.com/areteachersunderpaid



The breakdown of family units isn't the responsibility of teachers or the government.....the people raised and schooled in '50 and '60 and '70's learned with a lot less, less pay, less books, less teachers, less everything...
I attended school with one teacher for grades 1 to 4 and another teacher for grades 5 thru 8.....
My Father enjoyed a whole 6 years of school and ended up a heavy equipment master mechanic before he died....

You're a moron looking to blame others for everything you see wrong....look in the mirror sonny

You don't get it...and it's not my responsibility to see that you do. Fuck off.
 
To state the obvious black folk have been f*cked in this country through slavery, discrimination and many other issues. We could go into many examples of economic discrimination that affect blacks to this day. We could show examples of government programs, such as welfare, that promoted tearing the black family apart. But ultimately nothing is going to change until there is a sea change in attitude that comes from within the black community.
 
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To state the obvious black folk have been f*cked in this country through slavery, discrimination and many other issues. We could go into many examples of economic discrimination that affect black to this day. We could show examples of government programs, such as welfare, that promoted tearing the black family apart. But ultimately nothing is going to change until there is a sea change in attitude that comes from within the black community.

Oh, thanks, for passing the buck. That's putting whites in a box, called "no responsibility". Welfare? Haven't you heard the saying, "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime"???? Well, that's all fine and good, but how about stocking the lake with fish, in the first place, and making a goddamn pole available?
 
free education is shuned by far too many black youth, sure we should do a little more AA but as long as you have near zero or no affective thug management from within you get huge differences in educational achievement. It can't get much cheaper than FREE!!!!
 
Oh, thanks, for passing the buck. That's putting whites in a box, called "no responsibility". Welfare? Haven't you heard the saying, "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime"???? Well, that's all fine and good, but how about stocking the lake with fish, in the first place, and making a goddamn pole available?

Where am I passing the buck here?
 
Always blaming whitey?

Take ownership of your situation. The last time I checked this country was still free and you are not allowed to hire soley on race. If these idiots cannot find a job where they live they better create a small business or move somewhere they can find work. It is not the responsibility of the government to make sure everyone who comes through public education gets a job.
 
Where am I passing the buck here?

"We could show examples of government programs, such as welfare, that promoted tearing the black family apart. But ultimately nothing is going to change until there is a sea change in attitude that comes from within the black community."
Welfare? You're blaming welfare? If jobs were available, and minorities were hired, folks would have no need for welfare. And seeing that there are more whites on welfare, than any other ethnic group, is that the reason they're being torn apart? Can't have a double standard, now, can we?
 
"We could show examples of government programs, such as welfare, that promoted tearing the black family apart. But ultimately nothing is going to change until there is a sea change in attitude that comes from within the black community."
Welfare? You're blaming welfare? If jobs were available, and minorities were hired, folks would have no need for welfare. And seeing that there are more whites on welfare, than any other ethnic group, is that the reason they're being torn apart? Can't have a double standard, now, can we?

Before welfare reform welfare benefitted mothers economically not to be with the father. Look at percentage of black families that stayed together pre the 1960's and post 1960's. You may argue that having 70% of black children born out of wedlock is not an issue. I would argue otherwise.

And yes I am aware that numbers wise white folk have the highest number of people on welfare. Not sure what that has to do with the conversation or how I'm letting white people off the hook or how there is a double standard here in this discussion.
 
Before welfare reform welfare benefitted mothers economically not to be with the father. Look at percentage of black families that stayed together pre the 1960's and post 1960's. You may argue that having 70% of black children born out of wedlock is not an issue. I would argue otherwise.

And yes I am aware that numbers wise white folk have the highest number of people on welfare. Not sure what that has to do with the conversation or how I'm letting white people off the hook or how there is a double standard here in this discussion.

What???? I can't continue. You have stopped making sense, if you ever did.
 
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