Individual Mandate Unconstitutional - The Rest of the Law is A-OK

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So ruled the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals today:

(Reuters) - An appeals court ruled Friday that President Barack Obama's healthcare law requiring Americans to buy healthcare insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional, a blow to the White House.

The Appeals Court for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, found that Congress exceeded its authority by requiring Americans to buy coverage, but also ruled that the rest of the wide-ranging law could remain in effect.

This was the appeal from the lawsuit in Florida where, if I recall correctly, the lower court found that the individual mandate was unconstitutional and could not be severed from the rest of the law -- thereby ruling the whole law unconstitutional.

The 6th Circuit Court of Appeals previously upheld the entirety of the law. Given the split decisions as the appeals court level, this thing is headed to the SCOTUS without no doubt.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-usa-healthcare-idUSTRE77B4J320110812
 
will be interesting and very telling if the USSC throws out the entire law based on the wording and severability impossibility, or they will go with the bullshit 'intent of congress' to allow parts of it to remain intact.
 
will be interesting and very telling if the USSC throws out the entire law based on the wording and severability impossibility, or they will go with the bullshit 'intent of congress' to allow parts of it to remain intact.

What do you mean by "severability impossibility?"
 
What do you mean by "severability impossibility?"

didn't know what else to call it, but i remember talk about the new law having no clause in it to allow parts of it to succeed if some are ruled unconstitutional. so if this is written to be 'all or none', how it will be handled by scotus will be telling.
 
didn't know what else to call it, but i remember talk about the new law having no clause in it to allow parts of it to succeed if some are ruled unconstitutional. so if this is written to be 'all or none', how it will be handled by scotus will be telling.


This presumes that Congress alone gets to decide the severability issue and that's just not the case. Just because Congress says a portion of a law is severable does not mean that the courts are bound to it. Likewise, the lack of a severability clause does not mean that the entire law must be struck down if part of it is ruled unconstitutional. Severability is an issue that the courts decide, not the Congress.
 
So ruled the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals today:



This was the appeal from the lawsuit in Florida where, if I recall correctly, the lower court found that the individual mandate was unconstitutional and could not be severed from the rest of the law -- thereby ruling the whole law unconstitutional.

The 6th Circuit Court of Appeals previously upheld the entirety of the law. Given the split decisions as the appeals court level, this thing is headed to the SCOTUS without no doubt.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-usa-healthcare-idUSTRE77B4J320110812

you better watch out, lowiq will ding you for this

i agree, it is headed to scotus as you and i said it would months ago. if the individual mandate is thrown out, is the law even worth keeping, assuming severability is applied...
 
you better watch out, lowiq will ding you for this

i agree, it is headed to scotus as you and i said it would months ago. if the individual mandate is thrown out, is the law even worth keeping, assuming severability is applied...

With the individual mandate thrown out the law more closely resembles Obama's campaign proposal. Remember, he was the one Democratic nominee of the big three that had no individual mandate.
 
This presumes that Congress alone gets to decide the severability issue and that's just not the case. Just because Congress says a portion of a law is severable does not mean that the courts are bound to it. Likewise, the lack of a severability clause does not mean that the entire law must be struck down if part of it is ruled unconstitutional. Severability is an issue that the courts decide, not the Congress.

i believe the intent of congress matters in determining severability under the severability doctrine.
 
With the individual mandate thrown out the law more closely resembles Obama's campaign proposal. Remember, he was the one Democratic nominee of the big three that had no individual mandate.

did not remember that....if the individual mandate is thrown out, it seems to me as if the law needs to be rewritten as the mandate is supposed to bring in healthy people into the insurance pool, thus keeping insurance costs down. without it, the costs will by sky high.
 
i believe the intent of congress matters in determining severability under the severability doctrine.

I didn't claim otherwise. An explicit severability provision can assist in determining Congressional intent, but the lack of one is not outcome determinative.
 
This presumes that Congress alone gets to decide the severability issue and that's just not the case. Just because Congress says a portion of a law is severable does not mean that the courts are bound to it. Likewise, the lack of a severability clause does not mean that the entire law must be struck down if part of it is ruled unconstitutional. Severability is an issue that the courts decide, not the Congress.

thus what I was talking about. when did it become desirable for the courts to not judge a case based on the intent of the law over the wording of the law?
 
got it...that is correct, the presumption is in favor of severability in order to preserve as much of the law as possible

does that not go against several other scotus rulings that the wording of a law means something and that if congress had intended parts of a law to survive constitutionality, they should have written it in there?
 
does that not go against several other scotus rulings that the wording of a law means something and that if congress had intended parts of a law to survive constitutionality, they should have written it in there?

not to my knowledge. the case on point is from the 60's i believe and i don't think it has been overturned. the case is taught in lawschool con law classes, or so i'm told...
 
I agree with the ruling... but getting rid of the mandate is a bad idea unless the entire law can be thrown out. The whole idea behind the mandate was to increase the pool of insured, thereby offsetting (in theory) higher costs associated with increased coverage. If the mandate is thrown out but the remainder of the law remains intact, we are fucked.
 
Some interesting early analysis, including severability:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/08/11th-circuit-strikes-down-obamacare-mandate/

11th Circuit strikes down Obamacare mandate

Posted by William A. Jacobson Friday, August 12, 2011 at 1:18pm




This is the big case involving 26 states. In January, Judge Roger Vinson struck the entire law finding that the mandate could not be severed from the rest of the law.


The 11th Circuit ruled that the mandate was unconstitutional, but unlike Judge Vinson, did not throw out the entire law, finging that the mandate could be severed. The opinion is here.
Here is the conclusion summarizing the various aspects of the ruling:

We first conclude that the Act’s Medicaid expansion is constitutional. Existing Supreme Court precedent does not establish that Congress’s inducements are unconstitutionally coercive, especially when the federal government will bear nearly all the costs of the program’s amplified enrollments.


Next, the individual mandate was enacted as a regulatory penalty, not a revenue-raising tax, and cannot be sustained as an exercise of Congress’s power under the Taxing and Spending Clause. The mandate is denominated as a penalty in the Act itself, and the legislative history and relevant case law confirm this reading of its function.


Further, the individual mandate exceeds Congress’s enumerated commerce power and is unconstitutional. This economic mandate represents a wholly novel and potentially unbounded assertion of congressional authority: the ability to compel Americans to purchase an expensive health insurance product they have elected not to buy, and to make them re-purchase that insurance product every month for their entire lives. We have not found any generally applicable, judicially enforceable limiting principle that would permit us to uphold the mandate without obliterating the boundaries inherent in the system of enumerated congressional powers. “Uniqueness” is not a constitutional principle in any antecedent Supreme Court decision. The individual mandate also finds no refuge in the aggregation doctrine, for decisions to abstain from the purchase of a product or service, whatever their cumulative effect, lack a sufficient nexus to commerce. [fn omitted]


The individual mandate, however, can be severed from the remainder of the Act’s myriad reforms. The presumption of severability is rooted in notions of judicial restraint and respect for the separation of powers in our constitutional system. The Act’s other provisions remain legally operaive after the mandate’s excision, and the high burden needed under Supreme Court precedent to rebut the presumption of severability has not been met.

Some thoughts in no particular order:

* Once again a court rejects the belated argument by the administration that the mandate is an exercise of taxing powers. I believe that every court that has considered the issue has ruled against Obama.
* The main opinion is 204 pages, much of which is devoted to explaining how the law works. When Nancy Pelosi said we had to pass it to find out what was in it, she was right. And we need hundreds of pages of judicial decision to tell us.
* The mandate was rejected precisely because it requires people to enter a market rather than regulating a market. I’ll have to spend some more time to see if the court adopted the activity/no activity distinction, but this language certain sounds familiar to people who have been reading Legal Insurrection:

...

FYI He's a professor of law at Cornell University School of Law.
 
I've always assumed that the individual mandate would be thrown out, and that the rest of the bill would be considered constitutional. Of course, if it has to be re-written all over again, that could take some time...
 
This effectively makes the bill massively revenue impacting, it already was but with tricks of bookkeeping some said it was not, this means that per law the law must sunset within 10 years.

How is it possible to even continue with the law at all if you cannot force people to buy insurance at all?
 
you better watch out, lowiq will ding you for this

i agree, it is headed to scotus as you and i said it would months ago. if the individual mandate is thrown out, is the law even worth keeping, assuming severability is applied...
Oh absolutely it is. Particularly the reporting requirements the new law implements. Those will be absolutely essential for reform and cost control. Far to much money is wasted on procedures and practices for which the benefits are either not known or are dubious. This is a critical aspect of controlling cost. So are the efiling standards which must be implemented. This will have a huge impact on creating standardizations and efficiencies across the board.
 
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