Democrats Budget M. I. A.

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Ever since they abused the budget process to jam their health-care takeover through Congress last year, the Democrats have simply done away with serious budgeting altogether. The simplest explanation—and the president's real bluff—is that they don't want to commit publicly to the kind of tax increases and health-care rationing that would be required to sustain their archaic vision of government.

Can't wait to hear the Dem talking point that tries to defend this.

Meanwhile, it has been over two years since the Democrat-controlled Senate passed any budget at all. This is a historic failure to fulfill one of the most basic responsibilities of governing.

UNPRECEDENTED failure of leadership.

The CBO's latest Long-Term Outlook in June estimated that total tax revenues would have to double by mid-century in order to finance our current spending path. Health-care costs rose about 8% in 2011 and are projected to rise by 8.5% in 2012. At this rate, taxes would have to rise again and again just to keep up with health-care spending. Is it any wonder that the president and his party are afraid to produce a budget that requires such ruinous levels of taxation?

yeah.... lets keep on spending... such a great idea

 

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I think we're at 823 days since there has been a Budget. And that from a President who promised he would stop supplemental spending...

LOL. Is there a promise this guy kept?

 

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I think we're at 823 days since there has been a Budget. And that from a President who promised he would stop supplemental spending...

LOL. Is there a promise this guy kept?

Congress passes the budget. The President cannot unilaterally do it.

 

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I also think it's hilarious that Paul Ryan, whose own budget was rejected by the Senate, is complaining about Obama's budget that was rejected by the Senate. Where's Paul Ryan's credible budget? He is chairman of the House budget committee. His budget, like Obama's, was rejected in the Senate. So where's his new one? Shouldn't he come up with a credible plan before criticizing the president for not coming up with a credible plan?

 

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yeah.... lets keep on spending... such a great idea

You do realize that by mid century inflation alone would double current revenues?

 

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Congress passes the budget. The President cannot unilaterally do it.

LMAO.... NO shit... really? So we finally have a liberal who acknowledges the budgets of the late 90's were the work of the REP led Congress. Good to know.

That said, there is NOTHING stopping St. Obama from submitting a budget proposal to Congress.

There is NOTHING stopping St. Obama from putting pressure on his own party to pass a friggin budget. UNPRECEDENTED failure in leadership from 'the One'

 

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I also think it's hilarious that Paul Ryan, whose own budget was rejected by the Senate, is complaining about Obama's budget that was rejected by the Senate. Where's Paul Ryan's credible budget? He is chairman of the House budget committee. His budget, like Obama's, was rejected in the Senate. So where's his new one? Shouldn't he come up with a credible plan before criticizing the president for not coming up with a credible plan?

Ryan's plan IS a credible plan. HIS plan was rejected in the Senate because the DEMS are the party of NO. They rejected it because it was brought by a Rep House. Period. Where as Obama's "plan" (and I do use that term very loosely) was UNANIMOUSLY REJECTED by BOTH parties for its complete stupidity.

 

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LMAO.... NO shit... really? So we finally have a liberal who acknowledges the budgets of the late 90's were the work of the REP led Congress. Good to know.

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the term "unilaterally."

That said, there is NOTHING stopping St. Obama from submitting a budget proposal to Congress.

He already did that.

There is NOTHING stopping St. Obama from putting pressure on his own party to pass a friggin budget. UNPRECEDENTED failure in leadership from 'the One'

His party controls the Senate. The President and the Senate cannot pass a budget without the House.

 

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Ryan's plan IS a credible plan. HIS plan was rejected in the Senate because the DEMS are the party of NO. They rejected it because it was brought by a Rep House. Period. Where as Obama's "plan" (and I do use that term very loosely) was UNANIMOUSLY REJECTED by BOTH parties for its complete stupidity.

Ryan's plan was rejected by a 17 vote margin, with 5 Republicans voting against it. I'm so old I remember that being called "bi-partisan." It isn't remotely credible. So where's his credible plan?

 

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Congress passes the budget. The President cannot unilaterally do it.

However, as the leader of his party he could certainly put a priority on it, especially when he makes promises such as "no supplemental spending" and owns both houses of Congress as well as the WH... It isn't the republicans that aren't passing budgets, the House, as soon as it was controlled by republicans passed a budget, like they are supposed to.

The reality is, no democrat wants to be associated with agreeing to this insane spending, yet they can't get themselves to do the responsible thing and curb it.

 

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Apparently you are unfamiliar with the term "unilaterally."

No, I am quite familiar with it. It is liberals that seem confused when talking about what 'Clinton' did in the late 90's with regards to the budget.

He already did that.

Yes, he did, as I acknowledged, he put forth a 'plan' of such insanity that it was UNANIMOUSLY rejected by BOTH parties.

That said moron.... does this mean he will never submit another plan? Is he THAT pathetic of a leader that once soundly defeated on his first attempt that he simply QUITS?

His party controls the Senate. The President and the Senate cannot pass a budget without the House.

HIS party controls the Senate... which is the one that has FAILED to produce a budget for TWO YEARS.... AS I STATED... HE CAN PRESSURE HIS OWN PARTY TO PASS A BUDGET....

Have there been ANY votes on a budget in the Harry Reid Senate in the past two years other than the complete and UNPRECEDENTED failure that was put forth by 'the One'?

 

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Ryan's plan was rejected by a 17 vote margin, with 5 Republicans voting against it. I'm so old I remember that being called "bi-partisan." It isn't remotely credible. So where's his credible plan?

98-0 was the vote against the Obama's plan.

A plan that was rejected in a DEM led Senate by 17 votes, almost entirely on party lines.... that is a CREDIBLE plan you moron. It is the foundation that the two houses of Congress then work to tweak to get it passed in both houses. But typically we see a plan from the House, one from the Senate and THEN a compromise bill comes forth from the two.

But we are lacking the plan from the Dem led Senate... aren't we moron? They have completely neglected their duties. The HOUSE passed a budget moron. The Senate has not. If the Senate does not like Ryan's plan it is THEIR responsibility to PASS their version of a budget.

But I know... you like your politicians spineless and lacking in leadership qualities.... which is why you are such a diehard supporter of Obama and will defend him regardless of how inept he is.

 

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However, as the leader of his party he could certainly put a priority on it, especially when he makes promises such as "no supplemental spending" and owns both houses of Congress as well as the WH... It isn't the republicans that aren't passing budgets, the House, as soon as it was controlled by republicans passed a budget, like they are supposed to.

The reality is, no democrat wants to be associated with agreeing to this insane spending, yet they can't get themselves to do the responsible thing and curb it.

But Obama proposed a budget for FY2012. The House passed a different budget for 2012. The Senate rejected them both. Then the parties all negotiated a compromise. That's how the process works.

Now Paul Ryan is crying because Obama hasn't submitted a second budget. Well, where is Paul Ryan's second budget? And the parties just negotiated the size of the federal budget for the near term and passed a bill regarding it. Paul Ryan voted for it.

 

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98-0 was the vote against the Obama's plan.

A plan that was rejected in a DEM led Senate by 17 votes, almost entirely on party lines.... that is a CREDIBLE plan you moron. It is the foundation that the two houses of Congress then work to tweak to get it passed in both houses. But typically we see a plan from the House, one from the Senate and THEN a compromise bill comes forth from the two.

But we are lacking the plan from the Dem led Senate... aren't we moron? They have completely neglected their duties. The HOUSE passed a budget moron. The Senate has not. If the Senate does not like Ryan's plan it is THEIR responsibility to PASS their version of a budget.

But I know... you like your politicians spineless and lacking in leadership qualities.... which is why you are such a diehard supporter of Obama and will defend him regardless of how inept he is.

They all just negotiated an agreed path forward. All this crying about formal budget resolutions is side-show nonsense. If Paul Ryan didn't like the deal he should have voted against it instead of crying about irrelevancies in the Wall Street Journal op-ed page.

 

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They all just negotiated an agreed path forward. All this crying about formal budget resolutions is side-show nonsense. If Paul Ryan didn't like the deal he should have voted against it instead of crying about irrelevancies in the Wall Street Journal op-ed page.

Again dolt... the SENATE has not passed a budget in two years. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

Again dolt... the Obama can put pressure on HIS party to pass something in the Senate... yes or no?

Again dolt... the plan Ryan submitted PASSED the HOUSE... THAT is all he can do. The HOUSE HAS A BUDGET PASSED. THE SENATE DOES NOT.

Obama is FAILING to show ANY leadership on the issue. JUST AS RYAN STATED. You seem to be really really desperately wanting to put Ryan and Obama on the same level of power... is that your intention? To equate the President's effectiveness to ONE member of the House?

 

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Again dolt... the SENATE has not passed a budget in two years. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

Again dolt... the Obama can put pressure on HIS party to pass something in the Senate... yes or no?

Again dolt... the plan Ryan submitted PASSED the HOUSE... THAT is all he can do. The HOUSE HAS A BUDGET PASSED. THE SENATE DOES NOT.

Obama is FAILING to show ANY leadership on the issue. JUST AS RYAN STATED. You seem to be really really desperately wanting to put Ryan and Obama on the same level of power... is that your intention? To equate the President's effectiveness to ONE member of the House?

Let's assume I agree with you regarding everything you've written. What's the point of the Senate proposing and passing a budget at this point? The parties have negotiated an agreement regarding spending for the foreseeable future.

 

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Again dolt... the SENATE has not passed a budget in two years. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

Again dolt... the Obama can put pressure on HIS party to pass something in the Senate... yes or no?

Again dolt... the plan Ryan submitted PASSED the HOUSE... THAT is all he can do. The HOUSE HAS A BUDGET PASSED. THE SENATE DOES NOT.

Obama is FAILING to show ANY leadership on the issue. JUST AS RYAN STATED. You seem to be really really desperately wanting to put Ryan and Obama on the same level of power... is that your intention? To equate the President's effectiveness to ONE member of the House?

Let's assume I agree with you regarding everything you've written. What's the point of the Senate proposing and passing a budget at this point? The parties have negotiated an agreement regarding spending for the next 10 years. Ryan voted for it. If he didn't like it, he shouldn't have voted for it.

 

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You do realize that by mid century inflation alone would double current revenues?

Nothing SuperShill?

 

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Nothing SuperShill?

Nothing? You do realize that inflation is calculated already by the CBO? It is a part of their assessment.

 

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But Obama proposed a budget for FY2012. The House passed a different budget for 2012. The Senate rejected them both. Then the parties all negotiated a compromise. That's how the process works.

Now Paul Ryan is crying because Obama hasn't submitted a second budget. Well, where is Paul Ryan's second budget? And the parties just negotiated the size of the federal budget for the near term and passed a bill regarding it. Paul Ryan voted for it.

Oh nooooeees. His own party voted against his proposal unanimously. He has no priority for actually doing what he promised. I remember all the "Bush overspends" crap. This dude overspends so much even Democrats won't put themselves on record supporting it.

Remember, it wasn't Paul Ryan who has that responsibility according to the Budget and Accounting Act, it is the President.

He pretty much tries to get by on minimum and hope people don't notice that his spending is all against his promises... Man, I can't wait to see the ads with his own words damning him. He's an utter failure, I didn't think I'd see anybody worse than Carter and Bush, I was wrong.