Right-wingers blame multiculturalism, abortion for Norway massacre

Alias said:
He copied his manifesto from the Unibomber word for word except for a few references concerning his ideology, and none of it mentioned Jesus one time. He's insane. He's not a Christian.
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If he did as you say then why haven't you posted the manifestos side by side for comparison to see if they truly are "word for word" duplicates?


You demand others prove their claims...prove yours.
 
Of course he is Christian. He is as much of a Christian as Osama bin Laden was a Muslim. Both of them were religious, both of their views were extreme, both were crazy, and both killed a bunch of people due to their close-mindedness.

What people fail to realize is that just because he is Christian, it doesn't mean all Christians are that way. Both sides need to remember that. Any time you generalize and label, you are probably wrong. I see some people jumping up and down acting like this is a victory against Christianity, which is stupid. Christianity is the result of the Crusades and the Inquisition. Do you really think one Norwegian nutjob is going to harm Christianity? Christianity has done more good than evil in my book, even if you don't believe in God. Then you have Christians loudly proclaiming that he was definitely not a Christian! How do you define Christian? Someone who obeys the bible? If that is the case, no one is Christian, since everyone lies and in several places the bible teaches opposing principles. You can't judge anyone to be a Christian beyond them saying they are or not. It is God's job to set them straight. Both sides just need to accept that this was a deranged little man with a gun and a bomb.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
His continued unwillingness to admit something as basic as the shooter's self professed religious leanings shows the depth of Alias' psychosis.
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Speaking of psychosis..........What is the name of the current leader of the knights templar and how many current members do they have.
 
Alias said:
You are the one who claims the shooter is a Knights Templar, yet you cannot produce the leader's name or how many members there are. You are the one who takes the ramblings of an insane man while wanting us to believe he is "a hard core Christian.

I can tell you're almost done here. You're running out of ammunition.
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So your "proof" is that he couldn't give you the name of the current leader of the Knights Templar?

Really?

REALLY!
 
ZappasGuitar said:
How do you know "the partisan" didn't also listen to the show?

That's one big ASSumption you make there, kimosabe.

You getting advice from the Amazing Yurskin?
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Because of the way he takes short phrases out of context and extrapolates a meaning that wasn't there when they were uttered. Any honest person who listened wouldn't have said that about him. Of course, asking people to be honest about others who they think are "enemies" is asking a bunch from y'all, but I'm relatively sure you can do it.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
So your "proof" is that he couldn't give you the name of the current leader of the Knights Templar?

Really?

REALLY!
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Currently the Knights Templar are a group of old dudes who sit around at meetings and argue about how much their dues will be this year and who they might give a scholarship to this year. At least the ones that I know of are, they are all Freemasons. We need some AssHatZombie action here to tell us how evil the Freemasons are, letting in all those other religions and not forcing any specific religion on people....
 
Alias said:
That isn't the point. The point is this guy did not do his dirty deed in the name of Jesus like muslim terrorists do their dirty deeds in the name of Allah. That's the point.

I saw Zappa in 1975. He had this gorgeous tall gal who played the vibes like a wild woman and hot, hot, hot.
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How do you KNOW the guy didn't do his killing in the name of Christ?

Can you read the man's mind?

I have lots of conversations with God on a daily basis that NEVER get put down on paper, let alone told to anyone other than me and God.

Was the woman Ruth Underwood?
 
Alias said:
Speaking of psychosis..........What is the name of the current leader of the knights templar and how many current members do they have.
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Well...just between you and me...the current leader of the Knight's Templar is a guy named Saul Greenstein, currently living in Rome...but if anyone asks, I didn't tell you.

Happy now?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
How do you KNOW the guy didn't do his killing in the name of Christ?
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How do you KNOW a race of superbeings don't live under the ice cap in the North?

Can you read the man's mind?
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We can read his manifesto, which doesn't mention that he is doing anything at all because of his religion.

I have lots of conversations with God on a daily basis that NEVER get put down on paper, let alone told to anyone other than me and God.

Was the woman Ruth Underwood?
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Interesting, when Bush had those conversations were you among the people who mocked him for it?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
How do you KNOW the guy didn't do his killing in the name of Christ?

Can you read the man's mind?

I have lots of conversations with God on a daily basis that NEVER get put down on paper, let alone told to anyone other than me and God.

Was the woman Ruth Underwood?
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I agree, we don't know the shooter killed anyone in the name of Jesus, so why are you still defending that storyline?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
You backed up NOTHING. You just admitted you lied earlier.

So you WERE blowing smoke up everyone's asses when you claimed that the manifestos were "word for word" duplicates.

"Similar in tone" and "word for word" are comletely different.
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Show my post that says that.
 
Tags said:
The only problem you have is that the Unabomber Manifesto was somewhere around 110 pages, whereas Breivik's was 1,500 pages. Even if he copied that the Unabomber word for word, which he didn't... there is definitely enough of his own material to discover his intentions.
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I said he changed some words due to his ideology. He used the unibomber's manifesto and that has been established. He is not a Christian terrorist killing people in the name of Jesus like muslim terrorists kill people in the name of Allah. The attempt at leftist propaganda is a failure. Thank God for the internet and a free press in the USA.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
You backed up NOTHING. You just admitted you lied earlier.

So you WERE blowing smoke up everyone's asses when you claimed that the manifestos were "word for word" duplicates.

"Similar in tone" and "word for word" are comletely different.
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Still waiting for you to show my post that says he copied the mainfesto "word for word".
 
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