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Cantor rejects debt plan floated by Senate Republicans


Cantor, R-Virginia, told reporters after Wednesdays meeting that he proposed a short-term agreement to raise the federal debt ceiling, a position Obama has previously rejected. The president wants one deal that will raise the amount of money the government can borrow to sufficient levels to last through 2012 -- after his campaign for re-election.

"That's when he got very agitated and said I've sat here long enough -- that no other president -- Ronald Reagan -- would sit here like this -- and that he's reached the point that something's gotta give," Cantor said, adding that Obama called for Republicans to compromise on either their insistence that a debt-ceiling hike must be matched dollar-for-dollar by spending cuts or on their opposition to any kind of tax increase.

"And he said to me, 'Eric, don't call my bluff.' He said 'I'm going to the American people with this,' " Cantor quoted Obama as saying.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/13/debt.talks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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You're such a predictable hack. I just read this same story, and couldn't believe Cantor went to the press w/ this one - trying to score political points on an issue so crucial to our current fiscal health. He should be embarassed.

On the debt talks, I have to give Obama credit. He's been the only rational one involved w/ the talks - the GOP & Congressional Dems both painted themselves into ridiculous corners, thinking only of re-election and playing a crazy game w/ our economy. Obama has tried to give both options, but Congress is determined to make it a lose-lose.

You need to work on that ODS of yours....
 
Onceler said:
You're such a predictable hack. I just read this same story, and couldn't believe Cantor went to the press w/ this one - trying to score political points on an issue so crucial to our current fiscal health. He should be embarassed.

On the debt talks, I have to give Obama credit. He's been the only rational one involved w/ the talks - the GOP & Congressional Dems both painted themselves into ridiculous corners, thinking only of re-election and playing a crazy game w/ our economy. Obama has tried to give both options, but Congress is determined to make it a lose-lose.

You need to work on that ODS of yours....
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ODS? huh?

i'm a hack for calling obama out...wow...shocker from you.

obama the "only rational" one on debt talks.....and you call me a hack...LOL.
 
Yurt said:
ODS? huh?

i'm a hack for calling obama out...wow...shocker from you.

obama the "only rational" one on debt talks.....and you call me a hack...LOL.
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It would be interesting to see you list, without googling anything, what has happened in the debt talks - what each side;s position has been, what each side has offered, and what each side has refused & pledged to refuse if it is part of a solution. Obama, the Congressional Dems, and the Congressional Republicans.

I'd love to see that. I'm betting you have to google, though.
 
Onceler said:
It would be interesting to see you list, without googling anything, what has happened in the debt talks - what each side;s position has been, what each side has offered, and what each side has refused & pledged to refuse if it is part of a solution. Obama, the Congressional Dems, and the Congressional Republicans.

I'd love to see that. I'm betting you have to google, though.
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still nothing onceler...no surprise...what about all the palin, bachman threads? oh...nothing....yeah, thats what i thought
 
The politicos on both sides recognize one thing: the economy sucks, sucks bad, and is more likely to get worse before it gets better. The thing is, debt ceiling raised or not, the economic crisis we are experiencing is not going to go away anytime soon, and the politicos of both flavors know this. And that is the reason for the intransigence in the halls of congress. Both sides know the the economy is going to continue to flag, and is likely to devolve into another recession, no matter what kinds of compromise they may engage in.

So it has become a war of rhetoric, seeking to blame the opposition for what they know is coming. Both side are engaging in the rhetoric blame wars, and both sides are scrambling to defend their positions. Unfortunately, Obama is more about participating in the rhetoric wars than he is in leading (the job of President IS leadership!) the federal government.

The problem with Obama is he just is not a leader. Many presidents have worked with a hostile congress controlled or semi-controlled by the opposition. Good presidents manage to do so, and get things done. Reagan did it with congress under the leadership of Tip O'Neill, bringing about significant economic recovery in 3 years from a economic conditions worse than we face now. (though, in defense of Obama - which you'll hardly ever see me do - the economic situation is vastly worse, even while conditions are not as bad.) And Clinton did an outstanding job of working with the Republican controlled congress under the leadership of Newt Gingrich. But Clinton and Reagan were leaders. Obama, sadly, is not, at a time when we desperately need a real leader.
 
Onceler said:
It would be interesting to see you list, without googling anything, what has happened in the debt talks - what each side;s position has been, what each side has offered, and what each side has refused & pledged to refuse if it is part of a solution. Obama, the Congressional Dems, and the Congressional Republicans.

I'd love to see that. I'm betting you have to google, though.
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here's a brief summary
R: we will pass it if we cut spending
D: we will pass it if we add taxes
R: we will pass it if we cut spending
D: we will pass it if we add taxes and cut a little spending
R: we will pass it if we cut spending
D: we will pass it if we add taxes and cut a little more spending
R: we will pass it if we cut spending
D: we will pass it if we add taxes and cut just a little bit more spending......
 
Still disgusted that Cantor went to the press right away on this. How does that benefit the talks? Cheap political points over the welfare of the nation. There is a code on stuff like this, and if anything, he's the crybaby for taking it public.

I read an account this morning that Cantor exaggerated the response, and also didn't handle himself well at the meeting. Political brinksmanship at its finest.
 
Onceler said:
Still disgusted that Cantor went to the press right away on this. How does that benefit the talks? Cheap political points over the welfare of the nation. There is a code on stuff like this, and if anything, he's the crybaby for taking it public.

I read an account this morning that Cantor exaggerated the response, and also didn't handle himself well at the meeting. Political brinksmanship at its finest.
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you're right.....keeping things a secret will probably solve the problem quicker.....
 
Onceler said:
You're such a predictable hack. I just read this same story, and couldn't believe Cantor went to the press w/ this one - trying to score political points on an issue so crucial to our current fiscal health. He should be embarassed.
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Give me a break.... what exactly do you think Obama did with his fear mongering 'I just don't know if SS checks will go out' line of crap???

On the debt talks, I have to give Obama credit. He's been the only rational one involved w/ the talks - the GOP & Congressional Dems both painted themselves into ridiculous corners, thinking only of re-election and playing a crazy game w/ our economy. Obama has tried to give both options, but Congress is determined to make it a lose-lose.

You need to work on that ODS of yours....
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So to you a position of 'I won't agree to a short term deal that will give more time to work on a long term deal (that obviously the two sides aren't close to reaching)'.... that is RATIONAL??? While I agree the two parties in Congress have done exactly as you have stated above, Obama is NOT doing anything to help the situation and he is thinking almost entirely about how things will affect HIS reelection. Which puts him in the same little insane boat as the others.
 
I think it's hilarious that Eric Cantor is crying about Obama walking out of the meeting (that was at it's end, by the way) when just a short while ago Cantor walked out on the Biden negotiations when it came time for the Republicans to make some concessions:

WASHINGTON – Majority Leader Eric Cantor said Thursday that Democratic demands that some tax increases be paired with the spending cuts have brought budget negotiations led by Vice President Joe Biden to an impasse. Cantor said he's pulling out of the talks.

The Virginia Republican said in a statement that the Republican-dominated House simply won't support tax increases, and that he wouldn't participate in the budget meeting scheduled for Thursday. Cantor said that it's time for President Barack Obama to weigh in directly on the budget because Democrats insist on negotiating some tax increases.
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Cantor's a joke.


http://www.gopusa.com/news/2011/06/23/gops-cantor-walks-out-on-budget-talks/
 
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