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We've got to raise taxes. There's just no way around it. The deficit situation is so serious that while I wish we did not have to raise taxes, we just can't cut spending enough. I wish we could. We can't. We have to raise taxes. Mr. Obama is going to have to do it. I don't know if the Republicans in the House will go along with it. If they don't, there will be a genuine crisis, and I am frankly frightened about it. I'm extremely concerned about it.


http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/ben-stein-we-must-raise-taxes-rich#ixzz1QuadCWn8



http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/ben-stein-we-must-raise-taxes-rich#ixzz1QuadCWn8
 
In December, President Obama said it would be "a devastating blow to the economy" to raise taxes, because the economy was so weak. What has changed since December? Was President Obama lying to us or blowing smoke up our asses? If you follow the GDP and the history of raising and lowering top marginal tax rates, it is clear that raising taxes will produce lower revenue and lowering taxes will produce more revenue, but you are advocating we raise taxes... do you surmise we need LESS revenues at this time? To increase revenues through the tax code, you must broaden the tax base and lower the rate.

The TEA Party essentially pwned the Democrats in the 2010 midterms, they ran largely on the message of cutting spending and NOT raising taxes. But even before throngs of Democrats were sent packing, they joined Republicans in overwhelmingly rejecting a tax increase. What makes you believe, in all your profound political wisdom, there is any motivation on the part of Congress to raise taxes now? They could not do this with a majority House and Senate AND the President, before the TEA Party cleaned their clocks, why do you think they can do it now?
 
So Dix, using your logic, after BushII's 2 tax cuts, and Obama's extension, the coffers must be overflowing,right?
 
He's hiding $7 million worth of assets in Germany, you know.
 
In December, President Obama said it would be "a devastating blow to the economy" to raise taxes, because the economy was so weak. What has changed since December? Was President Obama lying to us or blowing smoke up our asses? If you follow the GDP and the history of raising and lowering top marginal tax rates, it is clear that raising taxes will produce lower revenue and lowering taxes will produce more revenue, but you are advocating we raise taxes... do you surmise we need LESS revenues at this time? To increase revenues through the tax code, you must broaden the tax base and lower the rate.

The TEA Party essentially pwned the Democrats in the 2010 midterms, they ran largely on the message of cutting spending and NOT raising taxes. But even before throngs of Democrats were sent packing, they joined Republicans in overwhelmingly rejecting a tax increase. What makes you believe, in all your profound political wisdom, there is any motivation on the part of Congress to raise taxes now? They could not do this with a majority House and Senate AND the President, before the TEA Party cleaned their clocks, why do you think they can do it now?

Dixie, Dixie, Dixie. If you recall the raising of taxes was to do with the expiring Bush tax cuts which would have raised taxes on everyone and as Obama said that would not be a good idea. The current conversation involves raising taxes on the wealthy only.

So, to recap:
Raise everyone's tax = bad idea
Raise tax on the wealthy only = good idea

In December the choice was to raise everyone's tax by eliminating the Bush tax cuts or keeping the tax cuts and not raising anyone's tax. That's when Obama said raising everyone's tax would be a bad idea.

Forward six months later and Obama wants to raise the tax on the wealthy only. "Only" is the key word here.

So, to raise taxes on everyone would be a bad idea. To raise taxes on the wealthy only is a good idea. That is what Obama wanted to do in December but he ended up with an all-or-nothing choice. Either cancel the Bush tax cuts and raise everyone's tax or keep the cuts and don't raise anyone's tax.

Check out this video. http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/ben-stein-we-must-raise-taxes-rich#ixzz1QuadCWn8

(Excerpt) Look, it's a basic arithmetic thing; it's not an ideological thing. We are spending an enormous amount of money that we're not covering with tax revenue; we're borrowing it. At some point we're going to have so much debt that there's going to be a crisis and there will have to be austerity measures here just as they were in Greece. A simpler way would be tax people who have a great deal of money, tax them more, let them help pay down the debt. Look, if a person is a millionaire or a billionaire…who are making $20 million a year, he can afford a tax increase. (End)
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/ben-stein-we-must-raise-taxes-rich#ixzz1Qx48aBt2

He goes on to say there were higher rates of economic growth in the 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s when taxes were higher and the Bush tax cuts have correlated with lower productivity and economic growth so one can not correlate lower taxes with higher growth and productivity. There is no data correlating lower tax rates for the rich to higher economic growth. (5:50 - 6:05 on the video) One can not say higher taxes on the rich are a bad thing in terms of economic growth. The data just isn’t there. (6:15 - 6:25)

That’s it in a nutshell. All this nonsense about the rich being upset and not creating jobs and higher taxes on the rich will result in lower economic growth is just that, nonsense. Decades of statistics show that isn’t the case.

It’s bogus. A lie. Pure bullsh!t. Nothing more.

Unless you have another objection to raising taxes on the rich I think we've pretty much concluded this discussion. :)
 
Dixie, Dixie, Dixie. If you recall the raising of taxes was to do with the expiring Bush tax cuts which would have raised taxes on everyone and as Obama said that would not be a good idea. The current conversation involves raising taxes on the wealthy only.

But you can't "tax the wealthy" ...you can only tax people who earn high incomes! Do you not comprehend there is a difference? The people you want to tax are not "rich people" but mostly people who own small business, since all small businesses are REQUIRED BY LAW to file on an individual or joint tax return. These people are NOT RICH! They earn high incomes but they also have high expenses associated with running their business. The incomes they are earning do not reflect sheer profit, they still have expenses to pay out, and they have to re-invest in their business to keep it growing.
 
But you can't "tax the wealthy" ...you can only tax people who earn high incomes! Do you not comprehend there is a difference? The people you want to tax are not "rich people" but mostly people who own small business, since all small businesses are REQUIRED BY LAW to file on an individual or joint tax return. These people are NOT RICH! They earn high incomes but they also have high expenses associated with running their business. The incomes they are earning do not reflect sheer profit, they still have expenses to pay out, and they have to re-invest in their business to keep it growing.

And they deduct the expenses from the gross and are only taxed on the net, or actual income. Stop being a retard.
 
The Seven-Million-Dollar Man (AKA Dixie) has been shown repeatedly how the budget can be balanced using this interactive tool, but because it was provided by the New York Times, the Seven-Million-Dollar Man (AKA Dixie) refuses to believe it can be done.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/13/weekinreview/deficits-graphic.html





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Really? Why don't you go ahead and tell us which business expenses are not deductible?

Everything that isn't specifically outlined as an itemized deduction. It depends on the business, there isn't a way to answer your question and apply it across the board. A photographer earns income of $100k, but had to spend $50k on lab processing and printing... they profited $50k, but they don't get to deduct the cost of lab processing and printing, they pay tax on the actual income earned. Now, they can deduct the cost of phone service, insurance, accounting, etc... some of their business expense is deductible, but not all, and not by a long shot.
 
Everything that isn't specifically outlined as an itemized deduction. It depends on the business, there isn't a way to answer your question and apply it across the board. A photographer earns income of $100k, but had to spend $50k on lab processing and printing... they profited $50k, but they don't get to deduct the cost of lab processing and printing, they pay tax on the actual income earned. Now, they can deduct the cost of phone service, insurance, accounting, etc... some of their business expense is deductible, but not all, and not by a long shot.

No they don't! Where did you get this retarded idea? I have been in business for over thirty years. I deduct my costs of doing business and pay taxes on the profit only. You are so fucking delusional.
 
The Seven-Million-Dollar Man (AKA Dixie) has been taking lessons from Michele Bachmann, I guess.




on Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 in an interview on "Good Morning America, she claimed - falsely "People want to think that these are millionaires, sitting in leather chairs, lighting their cigars with $100 bills. That's not what we're talking about. These are people who, who are carpet layers who maybe employ two or three other guys, or a plumber, maybe himself and his brother, and it's $250,000 in gross sales for their business. They're the ones that are looking at massive tax increases."




Sound like the Seven-Million-Dollar Man (AKA Dixie) to you?


It wasn't true then, and it isn't true now.




Here's why: Plumbers -- or any other small business owner -- get to deduct their business expenses, so they'd have to be bringing in more than $250,000 in gross sales.


The tax laws allow small business owners to deduct all kinds of business expenses: employees' pay, supplies, a car or truck, fuel costs, advertising, association dues, utilities, shop repairs, and the list goes on.












http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ele-bachmann-250000-gross-sales-tax-increase/










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