The Constitution means exactly what it says

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\(\(\(\/)/)/)/ said:
Are you familiar with SmarterThanYou?
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\(\(\(\/)/)/)/ said:
Is that what he says?
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You tell me. You are the one that said "You mean the righties who base their gunlove on hoarding arms and ammo in preparation for overthrowing Obama are wrong?", and when I said I didn't know anyone like that you kept trying to bring STY into the convo.

You asked a question of a certain type of person, and I simply said I couldn't answer that and didn't know anyone like that.
 
WinterBorn said:
You tell me. You are the one that said "You mean the righties who base their gunlove on hoarding arms and ammo in preparation for overthrowing Obama are wrong?", and when I said I didn't know anyone like that you kept trying to bring STY into the convo. You asked a question of a certain type of person, and I simply said I couldn't answer that and didn't know anyone like that.
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Yet you are familiar with STY. Are you unfamiliar with his ethos?
 
\(\(\(\/)/)/)/ said:
Yet you are familiar with STY. Are you unfamiliar with his ethos?
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I know him from here, and I am familiar with his distrust of authority.

But he does not fit the person you described. Do you know anyone that does? And have we stopped talking about the 2nd Amendment altogether?
 
WinterBorn said:
I know him from here, and I am familiar with his distrust of authority. But he does not fit the person you described. Do you know anyone that does? And have we stopped talking about the 2nd Amendment altogether?
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Have we?
 
"We hold these truths to be self-evident," the U.S. Declaration of Independence proclaims, "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights."





There are several problems with this line of reasoning.




First, it's very difficult to find passages in the Bible and other sacred texts that describe unalienable political rights.




Second, an argument on religious grounds is unconvincing.










http://civilliberty.about.com/od/historyprofiles/f/where_rights.htm
 
\(\(\(\/)/)/)/ said:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident," the U.S. Declaration of Independence proclaims, "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights."

There are several problems with this line of reasoning.

First, it's very difficult to find passages in the Bible and other sacred texts that describe unalienable political rights.

Second, an argument on religious grounds is unconvincing.

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/historyprofiles/f/where_rights.htm
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I never said it was based biblical writings.

Theses are rights granted to every living person. We in the USA just made sure we all get to keep them.

So..........

Is it your position, Rootbeer, that rights are endowed by the government?
 
WinterBorn said:
I never said it was based biblical writings. These are rights granted to every living person. We in the USA just made sure we all get to keep them...
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WinterBorn said:
our Creator...
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WinterBorn said:
whatever force that created human beings ...
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WinterBorn said:
God entitled them..."
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WinterBorn said:
So these rights can come from nature, nature's God, our Creator, ect ect.
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Nope, no Biblical references here.

 
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\(\(\(\/)/)/)/ said:
Nope, no Biblical references here.
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Feel free to point out any biblical references. I have most certainly not said it was any certain God, or even a God as we recognize the word. In fact, I believe I said evolution even applied.
 
Is it your position, Rootbeer, that rights are endowed by the government?
 
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