The Constitution means exactly what it says

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that may be the case, but they'd have been laughed at by any professional sniper.

absolutely true. nonetheless, they are still snipers. there are professional baseball players and amateurs....doesn't mean the amateurs are not baseball players.

 

[DamnYankee]

... congress only has two responsibilities concerning the militia. arming and training. look it up.

Thus, the definition of the word "regulated":

"Well regulated" in the colonial era and in this context, means "ready and disciplined". One cannot be disciplined in the use of arms without owning one.

 

[DamnYankee]

Hmmm, single-party government. You mean like the old Soviet union?

You clearly can't count. "Libertarians and conservatives" are two separate groups.

 

[apple0154]

why do you support registration? do you support the registration of knives?

It's probably just a false rumor but I heard after ObamaCare gets established obese people will be required to register their forks and spoons also.

 

[christiefan915]

of course christie skips over all the posts that deal with this question....WB's and the SCOTUS case which explain the matter quite concisely. for that matter....zappy skipped it to....because it doesn't fit your world view, therefore, it doesn't exist.

i don't understand how you two can still be "wondering" when the question has been answered.

I read all the posts. Those words have been debated for decades and continue to be debated. There would be no reason for this if the facts were as crystal-clear as you like to think.

Now run along and dig up one of your inane analogies about swimming pools or cars, dumbass.

Furthermore, if the question was clear from the beginning , Heller and other suits wouldn't exist.

 

[DamnYankee]

I read all the posts. Those words have been debated for decades and continue to be debated. There would be no reason for this if the facts were as crystal-clear as you like to think.

Now run along and dig up one of your inane analogies about swimming pools or cars, dumbass.

True they have been debated and will continue to be since there are so many 'tards that don't want to recognize the supremacy of the opposing argument as well as the consistency of the rulings over decades if not centuries by the SCOTUS.

 

[christiefan915]

You clearly can't count. "Libertarians and conservatives" are two separate groups.

Oh, hair-splitting. I see.

As of now, libertarianism isn't a mainstream party.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I read all the posts. Those words have been debated for decades and continue to be debated. There would be no reason for this if the facts were as crystal-clear as you like to think.

This is not entirely accurate. yes, they've been debated because people like to be obtuse or obfuscate instead of reading the rest of the founding documents, like the federalist papers, anti-federalist papers, editorials and commentaries prior to ratification, and the constitutional committee minutes. If those people were truly interested in the real meaning and intent of the words of the constitution, they would read those documents. Instead, they like to infer different meanings because freedom is scary to them.

 

[WinterBorn]

shooting at deer does not quality anyone to be a sniper. these guys were snipers under current definitions.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sniper

I simply said it galls me. It is like some guy in a rowboat being called a "captain" by the media. Yes, he is in command of a vessel, so he fits the description. But to a shooter, what they did was just bushwacking.

 

[WinterBorn]

absolutely true. nonetheless, they are still snipers. there are professional baseball players and amateurs....doesn't mean the amateurs are not baseball players.

But a guy with a bat and glove is not necessarily a baseball player.

 

[DamnYankee]

Oh, hair-splitting. I see.

As of now, libertarianism isn't a mainstream party.

How is that hair splitting, especially based on the context of my post?

Geez- just admit you fucked up and move on.

 

[christiefan915]

This is not entirely accurate. yes, they've been debated because people like to be obtuse or obfuscate instead of reading the rest of the founding documents, like the federalist papers, anti-federalist papers, editorials and commentaries prior to ratification, and the constitutional committee minutes. If those people were truly interested in the real meaning and intent of the words of the constitution, they would read those documents. Instead, they like to infer different meanings because freedom is scary to them.

You know, I was agreeing with everything you wrote until the last sentence, where you fell back on a fuzzy sound bite. I don't equate freedom with the right to be armed.

 

[Rune]

Its simple Yurtard.

Fixed that for you.

 

[DamnYankee]

You know, I was agreeing with everything you wrote until the last sentence, where you fell back on a fuzzy sound bite. I don't equate freedom with the right to be armed.

No as a liberal you equate freedom with freedom from responsibility.

 

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You know, I was agreeing with everything you wrote until the last sentence, where you fell back on a fuzzy sound bite. I don't equate freedom with the right to be armed.

so in your world....no knives, no guns, nothing for citizens....only the police can have that....is that right? i don't understand your statement.

 

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But a guy with a bat and glove is not necessarily a baseball player.

please....do you really have to split hairs on this?

is it your contention, that ONLY "professionals" of any activity are allowed to be associated with that activity? do you think the minor league players would agree with you?

 

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I simply said it galls me. It is like some guy in a rowboat being called a "captain" by the media. Yes, he is in command of a vessel, so he fits the description. But to a shooter, what they did was just bushwacking.

ok....did the two snipe or not?

 

[WinterBorn]

ok....did the two snipe or not?

I wouldn't call them snipers. To me that implies serious skills. But the media did, and feel free to call them that if you want.

 

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I read all the posts. Those words have been debated for decades and continue to be debated. There would be no reason for this if the facts were as crystal-clear as you like to think.

Now run along and dig up one of your inane analogies about swimming pools or cars, dumbass.

Furthermore, if the question was clear from the beginning , Heller and other suits wouldn't exist.

huh? you're spazzing again. did i say it was clear before heller? no. but you, as usual, insert strawmen into your arguments.

heller is clear. why don't you and zappa step up and explain how the court got it wrong. so far, all you've done is trash talk. i'm curious as to why - exactly - you think the court got it wrong.

don't get defensive. i'm interested to know why you think the court got it wrong.

 

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I wouldn't call them snipers. To me that implies serious skills. But the media did, and feel free to call them that if you want.

fair enough. i think it is splitting hairs a bit fine though. no one called them soldiers or professionals.