New York Special Election

David St. Hubbins said:
I'm not sure I follow you. Right now, total health expenditures are X. In 2022, under current law, total health expenditures will be Y. Of that Y, the government will have a share, less call it A and private parties will have a share, B. In 2022, under the Ryan Plan, total health expenditures will be Y + Z, but the governments share will be substantially less than A and private parties' share will be substantially more than B. Overall, the Ryan Plan increases total health expenditures while lowering the governments share of the costs and increase private parties' share of the costs.
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I am not surprised that you didn't follow.... try reading this portion again.... actually, read it 3-10 times (ie... as many as it takes for you to understand)

Under the extended-baseline scenario, debt held by the public is projected to rise from about 62 percent of GDP in 2010 to about 90 percent of GDP in 2050.13 Under the alternative fiscal scenario, the ratio of debt to GDP is projected to rise to more than 300 percent in 2050 (see Table 1 on page 3). Under the proposal, the ratio of debt to GDP would be significantly smaller over the long term—falling to 48 percent in 2040 and 10 percent in 2050.
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David St. Hubbins said:
I understand it fully. You, on the other hand, appear to be having some trouble.
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Not at all. Under RYAN's plan, the debt to GDP is far less as projected by EITHER of the two other scenarios. Yet you and the other Dem parrots pretend that the costs of Ryan's plan are far higher. The opposite is true. It makes us pay more for our own health care, but leaves far less debt. In other words, WE pay for our own rather than simply dumping ever greater amounts of debt on future generations. In other words, we don't make THEM pay for it while pretending all is well today.
 
Superfreak said:
Not at all. Under RYAN's plan, the debt to GDP is far less as projected by EITHER of the two other scenarios. Yet you and the other Dem parrots pretend that the costs of Ryan's plan are far higher. The opposite is true. It makes us pay more for our own health care, but leaves far less debt. In other words, WE pay for our own rather than simply dumping ever greater amounts of debt on future generations. In other words, we don't make THEM pay for it while pretending all is well today.
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You're conflating "cost to the government" and "overall healthcare costs." As I said, no one disagrees that Ryan's plan cuts the government's costs. (It's easy to do that by capping what the government spends.) The Ryan Plan, however, will likely increase overall healthcare costs.
 
David St. Hubbins said:
You're conflating "cost to the government" and "overall healthcare costs." As I said, no one disagrees that Ryan's plan cuts the government's costs. (It's easy to do that by capping what the government spends.) The Ryan Plan, however, will likely increase overall healthcare costs.
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No, it doesn't. When all else is held equal, the Ryan plan dramatically reduces the amount of debt to GDP. That DIFFERENCE is a part of the COST of using the other two scenarios. The Ryan plan doesn't increase overall health care costs.... you are just HIDING the additional costs by saying a senior would 'pay less' while ignoring the rise in debt that results in it. You are not reflecting the true costs for an apple to apple comparison.
 
David St. Hubbins said:
You're conflating "cost to the government" and "overall healthcare costs." As I said, no one disagrees that Ryan's plan cuts the government's costs. (It's easy to do that by capping what the government spends.) The Ryan Plan, however, will likely increase overall healthcare costs.
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No, it doesn't. When all else is held equal, the Ryan plan dramatically reduces the amount of debt to GDP. That DIFFERENCE is a part of the COST of using the other two scenarios. The Ryan plan doesn't increase overall health care costs.... you are just HIDING the additional costs by saying a senior would 'pay less' while ignoring the rise in debt that results in it. You are not reflecting the true costs for an apple to apple comparison.
 
Superfreak said:
No, it doesn't. When all else is held equal, the Ryan plan dramatically reduces the amount of debt to GDP. That DIFFERENCE is a part of the COST of using the other two scenarios. The Ryan plan doesn't increase overall health care costs.... you are just HIDING the additional costs by saying a senior would 'pay less' while ignoring the rise in debt that results in it. You are not reflecting the true costs for an apple to apple comparison.
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The Ryan Plan increases health care costs. Deal with it.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO.... like I said, you ignore the real costs because that is what works for your fairy tale and FEAR MONGERING. Don't worry, no one here expects anything less from a party hack like you.
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You can pretend to believe whatever you wish. I couldn't care less. I do find it odd, though, that relatively intelligent people sometimes choose to be ignorant shits for no good reason whatsoever. .
 
David St. Hubbins said:
You can pretend to believe whatever you wish. I couldn't care less. I do find it odd, though, that relatively intelligent people sometimes choose to be ignorant shits for no good reason whatsoever. .
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Lol.... I am not the one choosing to live in ignorance. The CBO posted the numbers.... not me. You just wish to hide the true costs. It is understandable as they completely demolish what your masters told you to parrot.
 
Superfreak said:
Lol.... I am not the one choosing to live in ignorance. The CBO posted the numbers.... not me. You just wish to hide the true costs. It is understandable as they completely demolish what your masters told you to parrot.
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You don't seem to understand the difference between total health spending and total health spending by the government. The former increases under the Ryan Plan while the latter decreases significantly.
 
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