John McCain Torture did not lead to capture, stop lying

Prior to the Bush administration's use of waterboarding, few actually questioned whether it is torture. Hell, after WW2 we even hanged Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American prisoners of war.
 
St. Augustine said:
Prior to the Bush administration's use of waterboarding, few actually questioned whether it is torture. Hell, after WW2 we even hanged Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American prisoners of war.
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Few ever heard of the enhanced interrogation technique known as "waterboarding" ...you are talking about something quite different with the Japs. McCain should have told you fuckwits to STOP LYING!
 
St. Augustine said:
Prior to the Bush administration's use of waterboarding, few actually questioned whether it is torture. Hell, after WW2 we even hanged Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American prisoners of war.
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Liberals keep presenting this falsehood as fact and everytime they've been asked the following question, they run like OBL.
Are you able to provide the proof of ONE Japanese soldier or Officer who was hanged, who was found guilty of only waterboarding?
 
Dixie said:
Few ever heard of the enhanced interrogation technique known as "waterboarding" ...you are talking about something quite different with the Japs. McCain should have told you fuckwits to STOP LYING!
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Actually, YOU are the one who's lying.

After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war. At the trial of his captors, then-Lt. Chase J. Nielsen, one of the 1942 Army Air Forces officers who flew in the Doolittle Raid and was captured by the Japanese, testified: "I was given several types of torture. . . . I was given what they call the water cure." He was asked what he felt when the Japanese soldiers poured the water. "Well, I felt more or less like I was drowning," he replied, "just gasping between life and death."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html
 
St. Augustine said:
Actually, YOU are the one who's lying.

After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war. At the trial of his captors, then-Lt. Chase J. Nielsen, one of the 1942 Army Air Forces officers who flew in the Doolittle Raid and was captured by the Japanese, testified: "I was given several types of torture. . . . I was given what they call the water cure." He was asked what he felt when the Japanese soldiers poured the water. "Well, I felt more or less like I was drowning," he replied, "just gasping between life and death."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html
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I didn't ask you for an article or an opinion piece, so please retry your attempt.
Name 1 Japanese soldier or Officer who was executed for only waterboarding prisoners.
 
St. Augustine said:
Actually, YOU are the one who's lying.

After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war.
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right.....the fact that they beat them half to death had nothing to do with their conviction......it was all because they threw water in their face........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
right.....the fact that they beat them half to death had nothing to do with their conviction......it was all because they threw water in their face........
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I didn't suggest that was the case. They were hanged for torturing American prisoners of war -- torture that included waterboarding. My point is that prior to the Bush administration, the United States considered waterboarding to be a form of torture.
 
St. Augustine said:
I didn't suggest that was the case. They were hanged for torturing American prisoners of war -- torture that included waterboarding. My point is that prior to the Bush administration, the United States considered waterboarding to be a form of torture.
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no......they didn't.....they hanged Japanese soldiers for torturing and liberals tacked "waterboarding" onto the list because they wanted to......
 
Onceler said:
Why would you have voted for an idiot?

You also love Trump, don't you? He said waterboarding is torture, as well...
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Well my choice was between an Idiot and a Socialist Marxist. I voted for the Idiot. I never supported McCain in the primaries, and thought he was the wrong way to go, as he has a record of cow-towing to the liberals (like he's doing here.) Still, he was a better choice to lead the country than a Socialist Marxist, anything beats that.

As for me liking Trump, I don't know where you got the idea. I have stated about 50 times now, I have never supported Trump for president. I supported Trump's candidacy for the nomination. There is a huge difference, which apparently, liberals can't comprehend. I like Trump being in the race because he is a political outsider, unafraid to raise the issues the others don't want to raise and talk about. I think when you're having a national debate, that is a good thing. I stated very clearly, I don't think I could ever see myself going into a voting booth and pulling the lever for Donald Trump, but again, liberals have trouble comprehending that and interpret it as me supporting Trump. Now.... if it were to come down to Trump vs. the Socialist Marxist? I'll let you decide who I would pick!
 
So when you were "starting to change your mind on Trump" you weren't actually endorsing him?

Was that because you suddenly remembered that you don't have a mind to change?
 
St. Augustine said:
I didn't suggest that was the case. They were hanged for torturing American prisoners of war -- torture that included waterboarding. My point is that prior to the Bush administration, the United States considered waterboarding to be a form of torture.
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You are factually inaccurate. The term "waterboarding" was coined by the Navy in 1976, to describe an exercise used on SEALS in training. The Japanese used a form of water torture, but it was not waterboarding. It differed in several aspects, the amount of water used, the intensity of the water, the angle of the table, the duration of the event... and often, the motive itself, which was punishment or retribution, under the guise of 'interrogation.' Very often, the subjects were literally drowned. Also, it was widely used on hundreds or thousands of prisoners of war, not an isolated FEW enemy combatants.
 
\(\(\(\/)/)/ said:
So when you were "starting to change your mind on Trump" you weren't actually endorsing him?

Was that because you suddenly remembered that you don't have a mind to change?
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Well, if you actually read the thread and took my comments in context, you understood I never endorsed Trump for president. But you are too stupid to even understand what context is, you probably think it's some form of birth control. In your warped little mind, you just take what someone says and apply your own interpreted meaning to it, and parade around like a retard, repeating it for weeks on end. And that's great, the retarded people of the world need a pied piper, and you make a really good one.
 
Dixie said:
You are factually inaccurate. The term "waterboarding" was coined by the Navy in 1976, to describe an exercise used on SEALS in training. The Japanese used a form of water torture, but it was not waterboarding. It differed in several aspects, the amount of water used, the intensity of the water, the angle of the table, the duration of the event... and often, the motive itself, which was punishment or retribution, under the guise of 'interrogation.' Very often, the subjects were literally drowned. Also, it was widely used on hundreds or thousands of prisoners of war, not an isolated FEW enemy combatants.
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You also forgot to include that the Japanese would also jump on the distendend stomachs of the prisoners, after they had been forced to injest huge amounts of water; during the practice.
 
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