I'll post it when I get home, searches that include the word marijuana are bad at work...
It's like you believe that it is a bottomless well of cash that will flood the state's coffers. It just doesn't.
Medical marijuana wins final vote in Delaware
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I'll post it when I get home, searches that include the word marijuana are bad at work...
It's like you believe that it is a bottomless well of cash that will flood the state's coffers. It just doesn't.
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I didn't say any of that, I said you wouldn't be the poorest state. Your getting millions in direct tax reciepts and you have thousands of good jobs created and millions not being spent jailing these productive workers.
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Pot cops a possible side effect of medical marijuana
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October 23, 2010 2:00 PM
JAKOB RODGERS
THE GAZETTE
Colorado’s booming medical marijuana businesses have been a lifesaver in a sea of red ink for state and local governments struggling to find new sources of revenues amid an historic recession.In Colorado Springs, sales tax revenue from medical marijuana has risen to about $50,000 a month, allowing the city to mow grass medians and consider restoring some Saturday bus service.
The irony for the medical marijuana growers and dispensaries is that the additional revenues being collected from them will also fund a new Colorado Springs Police Department unit whose full-time job will be to keep watch over the industry.
“We have a whole new industry … that we have to make sure it’s done safely and it’s not having an impact on quality of life in the community, as well as other crimes,” said Deputy Police Chief Pete Carey. “We have to make sure that as it starts, we pay attention to it.”
After years of budget cuts, the Police Department’s rebuilding efforts appear to be starting with medical marijuana money.
Three detectives and a code enforcement officer would be assigned to the team, which would be created in 2011 under the proposed budget awaiting City Council approval. The team would be part of the Metro Vice, Narcotics and Intelligence task force and would have duties similar to officers who now enforce city liquor laws and zoning regulations, said VNI chief Lt. John Godsey.
The entire expense, $331,000, would come from fees paid by medical marijuana businesses.
In the two years since the U.S. Justice Department announced a hands-off policy toward lawful marijuana businesses in states in which voters have approved its use for various medical conditions, Colorado Springs police have been hard-pressed to keep up with the changes.
Despite break-ins and 4th Judicial District Attorney Dan May’s claim that medical marijuana dispensaries are magnets for crime, Police Department crime statistics have shown little or no increase in illegal activities associated with the burgeoning industry.
But medical marijuana has kept officers running on calls that take away from time that could be spent investigating narcotics dealers.
VNI has been has been deluged with calls about medical marijuana, Godsey said, requiring five to eight officers a day going out to check on reports of illegal growing operations or buildings smelling of marijuana.
What the pot cops would be doing is unclear because the state and city are still coming up with the rules they will be enforcing. Some of it will involve a mix of local and state laws ensuring marijuana dispensaries are properly secured and growers don’t have more plants than allowed under the constitutional amendment approved by voters in 2000.
The detectives on the team will also be making arrests if they find illegal growing operations or illegal drug deals, Godsey said, while the code enforcement officer would ensure building codes are being followed and that growers and dispensaries are the required distance from schools or churches.
“If five years from now we only have 50 dispensaries, and they’ve been very compliant and haven’t had any issues … then it would be maybe a matter of a reassessment of resources,” Godsey said. “We know how busy we are relative to the amount of complaints and work coming in.”
The plan to create a new team devoted to medical marijuana enforcement strikes Tanya Garduno, president of Colorado Springs Medical Cannabis Council, as an overreaction.
Garduno said the team wouldn’t be needed after July 1, when state auditors begin regularly visiting businesses while cameras monitor each dispensary, keeping track of everything going on in the businesses.
“The state has accounted for (regulation), and we paid $9 million for that,” said Garduno, referring to the $8.5 million the state has received in application fees from marijuana centers.
Not everyone in the medical marijuana field is as wary of the scrutiny from law enforcement. Triton Gulczynski, who owns Crossroads Medical Marijuana Center, was glad to hear more detectives would be overseeing the business. With regulation, he said, comes validation for the industry.
“We want to be regulated,” said Gulczynski. “We’re all about being on the books.”
While the Police Department views the creation of the pot cops team as recognition that a new industry requires new priorities, it could be met with a backlash from critics who’ve blasted police for essentially giving up investigating thefts, burglaries and stolen vehicles as budget cuts left officers running from one call to the next.
Over the past few years, the number of detectives investigating property crimes has shrunk from 36 to 12, said police spokesman Sgt. Darrin Abbink. The department also eliminated one of three deputy chief positions, its two-officer fugitives unit, relying instead on SWAT officers to pick up suspects, and next year plans to reduce its airport detail by two officers.
By the end of this year, the Police Department expects to have 40 unfilled vacancies.
Carey expects that to be reversed beginning next year, when the department hopes to hold its first training academy in years.
“It’s getting us back in the right direction,” Carey said. “I believe we’re entering a recovery phase.”
Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/_self#ixzz1M9JuwNqV
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October 23, 2010 2:00 PM
JAKOB RODGERS
THE GAZETTE
Colorado’s booming medical marijuana businesses have been a lifesaver in a sea of red ink for state and local governments struggling to find new sources of revenues amid an historic recession.In Colorado Springs, sales tax revenue from medical marijuana has risen to about $50,000 a month, allowing the city to mow grass medians and consider restoring some Saturday bus service.
The irony for the medical marijuana growers and dispensaries is that the additional revenues being collected from them will also fund a new Colorado Springs Police Department unit whose full-time job will be to keep watch over the industry.
“We have a whole new industry … that we have to make sure it’s done safely and it’s not having an impact on quality of life in the community, as well as other crimes,” said Deputy Police Chief Pete Carey. “We have to make sure that as it starts, we pay attention to it.”
After years of budget cuts, the Police Department’s rebuilding efforts appear to be starting with medical marijuana money.
Three detectives and a code enforcement officer would be assigned to the team, which would be created in 2011 under the proposed budget awaiting City Council approval. The team would be part of the Metro Vice, Narcotics and Intelligence task force and would have duties similar to officers who now enforce city liquor laws and zoning regulations, said VNI chief Lt. John Godsey.
The entire expense, $331,000, would come from fees paid by medical marijuana businesses.
In the two years since the U.S. Justice Department announced a hands-off policy toward lawful marijuana businesses in states in which voters have approved its use for various medical conditions, Colorado Springs police have been hard-pressed to keep up with the changes.
Despite break-ins and 4th Judicial District Attorney Dan May’s claim that medical marijuana dispensaries are magnets for crime, Police Department crime statistics have shown little or no increase in illegal activities associated with the burgeoning industry.
But medical marijuana has kept officers running on calls that take away from time that could be spent investigating narcotics dealers.
VNI has been has been deluged with calls about medical marijuana, Godsey said, requiring five to eight officers a day going out to check on reports of illegal growing operations or buildings smelling of marijuana.
What the pot cops would be doing is unclear because the state and city are still coming up with the rules they will be enforcing. Some of it will involve a mix of local and state laws ensuring marijuana dispensaries are properly secured and growers don’t have more plants than allowed under the constitutional amendment approved by voters in 2000.
The detectives on the team will also be making arrests if they find illegal growing operations or illegal drug deals, Godsey said, while the code enforcement officer would ensure building codes are being followed and that growers and dispensaries are the required distance from schools or churches.
“If five years from now we only have 50 dispensaries, and they’ve been very compliant and haven’t had any issues … then it would be maybe a matter of a reassessment of resources,” Godsey said. “We know how busy we are relative to the amount of complaints and work coming in.”
The plan to create a new team devoted to medical marijuana enforcement strikes Tanya Garduno, president of Colorado Springs Medical Cannabis Council, as an overreaction.
Garduno said the team wouldn’t be needed after July 1, when state auditors begin regularly visiting businesses while cameras monitor each dispensary, keeping track of everything going on in the businesses.
“The state has accounted for (regulation), and we paid $9 million for that,” said Garduno, referring to the $8.5 million the state has received in application fees from marijuana centers.
Not everyone in the medical marijuana field is as wary of the scrutiny from law enforcement. Triton Gulczynski, who owns Crossroads Medical Marijuana Center, was glad to hear more detectives would be overseeing the business. With regulation, he said, comes validation for the industry.
“We want to be regulated,” said Gulczynski. “We’re all about being on the books.”
While the Police Department views the creation of the pot cops team as recognition that a new industry requires new priorities, it could be met with a backlash from critics who’ve blasted police for essentially giving up investigating thefts, burglaries and stolen vehicles as budget cuts left officers running from one call to the next.
Over the past few years, the number of detectives investigating property crimes has shrunk from 36 to 12, said police spokesman Sgt. Darrin Abbink. The department also eliminated one of three deputy chief positions, its two-officer fugitives unit, relying instead on SWAT officers to pick up suspects, and next year plans to reduce its airport detail by two officers.
By the end of this year, the Police Department expects to have 40 unfilled vacancies.
Carey expects that to be reversed beginning next year, when the department hopes to hold its first training academy in years.
“It’s getting us back in the right direction,” Carey said. “I believe we’re entering a recovery phase.”
Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/_self#ixzz1M9JuwNqV
Huh?
He said it brings in millions, and it does. With basically every state in the midst of a budget crisis right now, it's hard to imagine that legalizing medical marijuana isn't a serious consideration everywhere.
That prostitution law you mentioned is absurd, btw...
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Marijuana business money in Colorado
May 5th, 2011 12:44 pm MT 1 Comment
By Jay Walter
Denver Cannabis Industry Examiner
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Legal Cannabis: Looking at the Numbers
Colorado has a total state debt of $25.7 billion when calculated by adding the total of outstanding debt, pension and OPEB UAAL’s, unemployment trust funds and the 2010 budget gap. With Colorado set to possibly legalize marijuana in 2012 the question naturally comes up as to how much revenue the legalization of marijuana would raise.
In the November 2000 general election, Coloradoans passed Amendment 20, and the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) was tasked with implementing and administering the Medical Marijuana Registry program.
The Colorado Constitution authorizes CDPHE to collect fees to cover the costs of administering the program. Currently the fee is $90, and is evaluated annually by CDPHE. The fee was lowered from $110 on June 1, 2007.
The U.S. medical marijuana market will reach $1.7 billion in sales this year, according to a report by See Change Strategy LLC.
The market, which nearly rivals Viagra's $1.9 billion in sales, is expected to double in the next five years as the number of patients grows and more states adopt laws allowing the sale of marijuana for medicinal purposes, according to the report.
As we start to estimate what the numbers could be after full legalization, they become more open to interpretation.
Estimates of the total amount of marijuana sold in Colorado – last year Colorado State and city treasuries reaped hundreds of thousands of dollars each month thanks to sales of medical cannabis. The total sales tax collected last year from Colorado dispensaries alone amounts to more than $2.2 million; Denver businesses have also paid more than that amount in sales tax, while smaller Colorado Springs has collected approximately $380,000 in local sales tax. Now, it doesn’t take a vivid imagination to picture what revenues such as that could do for the US economy – at a time when it’s sorely needed too.
May 5th, 2011 12:44 pm MT 1 Comment
By Jay Walter
Denver Cannabis Industry Examiner
View all articles by Jay Walter Share: Share on FacebookShare on TwitterEmailPrintDo you like this Article?
Legal Cannabis: Looking at the Numbers
Colorado has a total state debt of $25.7 billion when calculated by adding the total of outstanding debt, pension and OPEB UAAL’s, unemployment trust funds and the 2010 budget gap. With Colorado set to possibly legalize marijuana in 2012 the question naturally comes up as to how much revenue the legalization of marijuana would raise.
In the November 2000 general election, Coloradoans passed Amendment 20, and the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) was tasked with implementing and administering the Medical Marijuana Registry program.
The Colorado Constitution authorizes CDPHE to collect fees to cover the costs of administering the program. Currently the fee is $90, and is evaluated annually by CDPHE. The fee was lowered from $110 on June 1, 2007.
The U.S. medical marijuana market will reach $1.7 billion in sales this year, according to a report by See Change Strategy LLC.
The market, which nearly rivals Viagra's $1.9 billion in sales, is expected to double in the next five years as the number of patients grows and more states adopt laws allowing the sale of marijuana for medicinal purposes, according to the report.
As we start to estimate what the numbers could be after full legalization, they become more open to interpretation.
Estimates of the total amount of marijuana sold in Colorado – last year Colorado State and city treasuries reaped hundreds of thousands of dollars each month thanks to sales of medical cannabis. The total sales tax collected last year from Colorado dispensaries alone amounts to more than $2.2 million; Denver businesses have also paid more than that amount in sales tax, while smaller Colorado Springs has collected approximately $380,000 in local sales tax. Now, it doesn’t take a vivid imagination to picture what revenues such as that could do for the US economy – at a time when it’s sorely needed too.
Cool. I'm good with that. Toppy, it does bring a few million, but it certainly doesn't make Colorado "rich" or "not-poor". This is not the resolution to our budget issues.
I've said it myriad times, we should decriminalize all drugs and heavily regulate use by age, as well as job (don't want pilots hopped on "h") this would reduce usage overall as such regulation would make it more difficult for youth to get the drugs.
When I was in Junior High, all I had to do was go to a "friend" that I knew to get any danged illegal drug possible from marijuana on up to cocaine and heroin if I wanted it. But to get alcohol I had to find an idiot over 18, then later over 21 to buy it for me. One was very easy to obtain at any moment, and nobody was checking ids.
If you want drugs out of the hands of children, and thus way less used overall, you do not rely on the black market to check ids or "the war on drugs" to make it impossible to get.
Yes. If you stay within the limits set by your employer.
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how many times do i have to tell you...i am not a lawyer....i'm a meter maid
you smoke to much weed and as a result suffer from dopehead syndrome
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FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Yes, because buying something doesn't count as commerce.
Anyway, it does have effect because it limits the involvement of the state government in policing this. It doesn't fully legalize it, but it makes it more difficult to put someone in prison for it. Which, in a legally realistic sense, makes it "more legal".
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answer this simple question.
does the federal government have authority to mandate that I grow red roses or daffodils in my back yard using the commerce clause?
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technically, according to case law -- yes
SmarterthanYou
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what case? how badly does that case go beyond the constitution?
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buying anything or selling anything is commerce. how can you say it doesn't count as commerce?
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the corn (iirc) crop case. aggregate effect on interstate commerce.
imo...it goes beyond the framers intent, scotus has upheld it though....i understand the reasoning, but it gives way, way, way to much power to the government.
SmarterthanYou
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i didn't say anything about buying or selling. i'm simply talking about growing your own flowers or plants, assume you already have the seeds/bulbs.
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i was replying to watermark....he is the one i quoted