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So another RightWing rag has claimed that muslims aren't "doing enough" to help denounce Islamofascism:

From a May 7 WorldNetDaily column by Larry Klayman:

BHO uses Osama death to further Muslim interests

Read more: BHO uses Osama death to further Muslim interests http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=295781#ixzz1Ln69e8Bl


In an orchestrated public-relations campaign following the death of Osama bin Laden (OBL), President Barack Hussein Obama, in conjunction with the American Muslim community, sent forth messengers, like the Ground Zero mosque Imam Faisal Rauf, to spew forth an amazing message: The time for "healing" between Muslims, Christians and Jews has come with OBL's demise. In other words, non-Muslims should allegedly stop persecuting and get "off the backs" of Muslims and look the other way regarding their general nonchalance toward terrorism.

Given that Muslims had nothing to with OBL's assassination, the notion that they should profit from and are deserving of so-called healing is not only bizarre, but also outrageous. The hard fact is that most Muslims in the United States have remained silent in the years since 9/11 and have done little to nothing in the way of healing. One of the biggest offenders in this regard is the "mullah in chief" himself, who not only refused last year to have a White House celebration of the National Day of Prayer, but instead feasted the Muslim holiday of Ramadan. Obama used the occasion, not coincidentally, to endorse the Ground Zero mosque.

In short, what we saw this week was Obama and his Muslim friends literally "making love" with each other, all made possible thanks to the death of OBL. While it was "theatre of the absurd," there does not seem to be a denouement in sight to Obama and his administration's support of Muslims at our expense.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=295781

But maybe that rag should be asking why should they, given this kind of crap happens to muslim men and women right here in the land of the free all the time:


Pilot refuses to fly two Muslim men to tolerance conference

Two Muslim men were removed from a flight bound for North Carolina before the plane took off Friday, reportedly because they were clad in traditional Muslim garb, making the pilot and other passengers uncomfortable.

The two men, Masudur Rahman and Mohamed Zaghloul, are both imams and were headed to a conference to discuss Islamophobia — fear of Islam — and tolerance with other religious leaders.

Rahman compared his plight to the Civil Rights movement, and told a CNN affiliate, "That history I found today in that plane, and it shouldn't happen with any other person," he said.

The men have contacted the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which said the case will be pursued.

Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the group, said that the men had gone through multiple security checks and gotten on the plane, but that the pilot had taxied it back to the gate.

Transportation Security Administration "came on and pulled them off and said the pilot was refusing to fly with them because passengers were uncomfortable with them," Hooper said. Rahman and Zaghloul were re-screened and still didn't present any threat, but the pilot "absolutely refused" to fly them on the plane.

Representatives for Atlantic Southeast Airlines, which operated the Memphis-Charlotte flight, said that the incident was under investigation, and that the men had been offered seats on another flight.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/07/pilot-refuses-to-fly-two-muslim-men-to-tolerance-conference/
 
The champion-of-the-week of the haters on the board says there's an attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government....

 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;811724 said:
To make unfounded, bigoted statements? No wonder you overcame your antipathy for black people to praise him.

While I don't necessary feel comfortable with the blanket statement made by Cain, it is true that many Muslims do wish to impose their religious law onto non-Muslims. I believe this worldview is much more common amongst Muslims than Christians in the west, as we have a long-standing tradition in this country of keeping ecclesiastical law out of the courtroom. There are a few notable exceptions, such as Roy Moore, but cases such as these are often swiftly dealt with -- Roy Moore was removed from office, for instance. Muslim countries, by comparison, do not have these traditions. Many Muslims have no understanding of religious freedom. Where they come from, anyone who leaves the Islamic religion is put to death. Can you name one Christian country where people who convert to Islam (or any other religion) are put to death?
 
While I don't necessary feel comfortable with the blanket statement made by Cain, it is true that many Muslims do wish to impose their religious law onto non-Muslims. I believe this worldview is much more common amongst Muslims than Christians in the west, as we have a long-standing tradition in this country of keeping ecclesiastical law out of the courtroom. There are a few notable exceptions, such as Roy Moore, but cases such as these are often swiftly dealt with -- Roy Moore was removed from office, for instance.

Do you think American Muslims are plotting to impose Sharia law and the Muslim faith on non-Muslims through the US government?

Muslim countries, by comparison, do not have these traditions. Many Muslims have no understanding of religious freedom. Where they come from, anyone who leaves the Islamic religion is put to death. Can you name one Christian country where people who convert to Islam (or any other religion) are put to death?

We're not discussing Muslim countries, are we? The title of the thread was your first clue.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;811753 said:
Do you think American Muslims are plotting to impose Sharia law and the Muslim faith on non-Muslims through the US government?

Not the majority of them, no. Many have realized the benefits of western society. That's probably why all of them came here in the first place. However, I do not believe that particular worldview (that Sharia law should be imposed on non-Muslims) is by any means rare.

We're not discussing Muslim countries, are we? The title of the thread was your first clue.

I'm aware. My point is that in their countries of origin, they were not exposed to western liberal ideals.
 
Not the majority of them, no. Many have realized the benefits of western society. That's probably why all of them came here in the first place. However, I do not believe that particular worldview (that Sharia law should be imposed on non-Muslims) is by any means rare. I'm aware. My point is that in their countries of origin, they were not exposed to western liberal ideals.

So we concur that your reply was irrelevant to the subject at hand.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;811761 said:
So we concur that your reply was irrelevant to the subject at hand.

Actually, I was replying to your post regarding Herman Cain. My point is that many Muslim immigrants lack any desire to integrate into western society. This is especially true in the Netherlands and France, where Muslims account for 10% of the population.

If you wish to remain ignorant for the sake of political correctness, so be it.
 
Actually, I was replying to your post regarding Herman Cain. My point is that many Muslim immigrants lack any desire to integrate into western society. This is especially true in the Netherlands and France, where Muslims account for 10% of the population. If you wish to remain ignorant for the sake of political correctness, so be it.

Maybe you should start a thread on it, instead of trolling in one called "Muslim in America".
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;811770 said:
Maybe you should start a thread on it, instead of trolling in one called "Muslim in America".

If you're concerned about the thread being derailed, why did you post the video of Herman Cain? This thread isn't about Herman Cain.

I tried to give you a chance today, but obvious troll is obvious... welcome to my ignore list.
 
If you're concerned about the thread being derailed, why did you post the video of Herman Cain? This thread isn't about Herman Cain. I tried to give you a chance today, but obvious troll is obvious... welcome to my ignore list.

Maybe you think Herman is talking about France or some "Muslim country" retard.

If you can't debate, why do you come here, pussy-boy?

I'll miss schooling you...not.


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¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;811774 said:
Maybe you think Herman is talking about France or some "Muslim country" retard.

If you can't debate, why do you come here, pussy-boy?

I'll miss schooling you...not.


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how cute....the troll gets all butt hurt and pissy because the truth hurts
 
there are people on BOTH sides of the aisle who believe muslims could do more in denouncing radical islam. and in reality, they could. there are muslims denouncing it, but not in the volume they denounce harms, perceived or real, to their interests. radical islam is a danger.
 
That's kind of stupid. The Muslims that are trained in terrorism are trained to blend in, not dress in traditional garb. The reason they were able to board planes was because they didn't actually look like terrorists.
 
Actually, I was replying to your post regarding Herman Cain. My point is that many Muslim immigrants lack any desire to integrate into western society. This is especially true in the Netherlands and France, where Muslims account for 10% of the population.

If you wish to remain ignorant for the sake of political correctness, so be it.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...that's why so many give up their friends and family and way of life to move to America...because they don't want to assimilate into Western Society.
 
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