DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
If those things aren't torture, then define what is.
m-w.comthe infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
If those things aren't torture, then define what is.
m-w.comthe infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
Specifics.
How much more specific can one be?
How much more specific can one be?
One can list some specific practices (not just "burning, crushing, or wounding") that cause intense pain.
Burning: cigarette burns? electrocution? blowtorch?
Crushing: elephants? stoning? dropping a one-ton safe on the body?
Wounding: gun shot? knife? razor? amputation?
Which of these can legally be used to get info?
Waterboarding was used on exactly THREE people.... TWO of them disclosed information which ultimately led to OBL. You can try to spin that, but the fact remains, two of the three people we waterboarded, gave us OBL. Contrary to everything we were told by liberals and pinheads about how waterboarding and enhanced interrogation, which supposedly never worked to obtain credible results. You were wrong! It did work in this case.
Now you all want to run around with your chest poked out, claiming credit in the name of Obama for this, but at the same time, making some insanely ignorant argument that waterboarding had nothing to do with the information which led to OBL. I suppose it is just an absolute coincidence that two of three people who were waterboarded, revealed the name of the courier and confirmed it? Did no one else know of this courier? Maybe we didn't give them the right flavor ice cream and cookies? I mean, what kind of convoluted idiot can believe enhanced interrogation didn't produce results here?
None of them are legal. But none of them are as effective as waterboarding, which doesn't meet the definition of torture.
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810201 said:Tell us how, if your favorite torture worked so well, it took several more years to find Osama?
Webster's?
Coercion can be implemented without torture, dumbass.
Because LIFE isn't a made-for-tv movie! That's why! Things take time, details have to be pieced together, dots have to be connected.
None of them are legal. But none of them are as effective as waterboarding, which doesn't meet the definition of torture.
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810201 said:Tell us how, if your [waterboarding] worked so well, it took several more years to find Osama?
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810217 said:LOL!
Do you apply the same logic to Obama's handling of the economy?
but waterboarding does meet the legal definition of torture according to the US CODE
Maybe it would have been better to have said use the US CODE...
The Code is written by politicians who have an agenda, therefore political opinion. I'm arguing facts, that by definition have no agenda.
