How we judge Presidents!

looks like repukes will have to stay with the real stuff.
Spending our grandkids money
class warfare
redistribution of wealth labeled as healthcare
attacking every industry with a profit
stuff like that
 
charver said:
Put simply - if it had turned out to be a disaster Obama would have been forever remembered, by his opponents, as a terrible President who messed everything up rather than a terrible President who got one decision correct and fucked everything else up.
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LOL. Win.
 
Sports fans can think of many analogies of coaches who went for it on 4th down or tried a trick play etc. If the team makes it the coach is praised if they don't he's a bum type of deal. Pretty similar to here.
 
cawacko said:
Sports fans can think of many analogies of coaches who went for it on 4th down or tried a trick play etc. If the team makes it the coach is praised if they don't he's a bum type of deal. Pretty similar to here.
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While I disagree that Obama is comparable to the loosing sports fan, you have illistrated my point. It would be a sad comentary on Democracy if President Obama were reelected based simply because people liked this one incident.
 
Jarod said:
While I disagree that Obama is comparable to the loosing sports fan, you have illistrated my point. It would be a sad comentary on Democracy if President Obama were reelected based simply because people liked this one incident.
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I don't think this guarantees his re-election by any means. The euphoria we feel today will wear off in 18 months. But it is definitely something he will (rightly) point to when he is making his case for four more years. He deserves credit for what happened.
 
Bfgrn said:
And Reagan is never vilified for undermining the President of the United States and negotiating with the enemy.
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Kinda like the outpouring of defense for John Kerry for meeting with the Viet Cong and negoiating with the enemy in the middle of a hot war....while out troops were fighting and dieing....
some of you pinheads still, even today, only show little or mild misgivings about traitors like Jane Fonda and her ilk....

We know all about the double standards and selective memory of the lefties over the years.....:fu:
 
bravo said:
Kinda like the outpouring of defense for John Kerry for meeting with the Viet Cong and negoiating with the enemy in the middle of a hot war....
some of you pinheads still, even today, only show little or mild misgivings about traitors like Jane Fonda and her ilk....

We know all about the double standards and selective memory of the lefties over the years.....:fu:
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kerry was a navy fag too
 
cawacko said:
I don't think this guarantees his re-election by any means. The euphoria we feel today will wear off in 18 months. But it is definitely something he will (rightly) point to when he is making his case for four more years. He deserves credit for what happened.
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I agree, he should get credit... not necessarly for the result, but for making the gutsy decision and putting together a team that led to the decision.
 
bravo said:
Kinda like the outpouring of defense for John Kerry for meeting with the Viet Cong and negoiating with the enemy in the middle of a hot war....while out troops were fighting and dieing....
some of you pinheads still, even today, only show little or mild misgivings about traitors like Jane Fonda and her ilk....

We know all about the double standards and selective memory of the lefties over the years.....:fu:
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Cite?
 
cawacko said:
I don't think this guarantees his re-election by any means. The euphoria we feel today will wear off in 18 months. But it is definitely something he will (rightly) point to when he is making his case for four more years. He deserves credit for what happened.
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alone it certainly won't....but it has given obama a huge boost...one of his weaknesses was the claim he would be soft on terror (3 am phone etc...) and now, what is usually a big dem weakness, weak in military matters...its out the window....there are very few dems who could run on a platform of being tough on the war on terror...hillary could and did....now...one of her big talking points is dead and it was also a huge talking point for the right.

i predict obama wins hands down in 12....unless the economy collapses.
 
Jarod said:
I agree, he should get credit... not necessarly for the result, but for making the gutsy decision and putting together a team that led to the decision.
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Obama put shit together....

History lesson #2

The entire framework and infrastructure for the success of the "Get Osama" mission was planned, built and put into operation long before Obama came on the scene....
Obama has stayed the course set by Clinton in 1993 and then Bush in 2001 in hunting and getting Osama.....he has stayed the course set by Bush in Iraq.....he has stayed the course set by Bush in Afghanistan....
OBL has been on the FBI most wanted list since 1999....

This is what led to the demise of OBL...passage of terrorists realated legislation like

Lone wolf amendment to FISA in 2004
Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act of 2006
Protect America Act of 2007
NSA warrantless surveillance program
The Patriot Act

All enacted by the Bush Administration....
Gitmo
The capture of the terrorists during the Bush years and held in Gitmo and
the application of effective interrogation methods to extract useful intelligence....

Osama bin Laden killed after tip-offs from Guantanamo
The mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, who was interrogated using “torture” techniques, gave the United States the breakthrough that resulted in the killing of Osama bin Laden.
A second source – also an al-Qaeda “leader” held at Guantanamo Bay – then confirmed the courier’s identity, sparking an intense manhunt that resulted in the dramatic final raid.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
It won't....but it don't hurt his chances either. On the other hand...had the mission failed, it probably would have cost him re-election. So he took a huge political gamble by authorizing this mission. With 20:20 hindsight, he obviously made the right decision.
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no one would have known if it failed :pke:

it would have simply been another mission in pakistan...no one would know the target
 
Yurt said:
no one would have known if it failed :pke:

it would have simply been another mission in pakistan...no one would know the target
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Yeah...like that secret would have been kept....:palm:...no one would know the target?

The gullibility of some people is astounding.....
 
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