Warmers push climate/tornado link

jerry, we agree on many issues, but I consider myself anything but extremist on climate change hoax. I've spent about three years or more( lost count actually ) on discovering the entire climate science field. From ice cores, to mud cores, to leaf stomata, to tree rings, and more. I've looked into it and posted results. I've adhered to a rule of posting credible links and try to find peer-reviewed works to make my assertions. I speculated the carbon dioxide forcing to be overestimated by 30% and I based it on the facts that leaf stomata derived CO2 levels were in the 300 ppm range.

interglacial periods: how do they work?
 
Tin, you always get mixed up in the global warming debate; you're so adament about "warmers" that you forget some facts.

To me, your thing has always been AGW, and on that, I kind of agree with you. I think your position is more that man can't possibly influence warming; mine is more that it's impossible to know or prove.

But, since you study it so much, you have to know that warming does lead to more extreme weather patterns, whether it's caused by man or not...
 
Onceler said:
Tin, you always get mixed up in the global warming debate; you're so adament about "warmers" that you forget some facts.

To me, your thing has always been AGW, and on that, I kind of agree with you. I think your position is more that man can't possibly influence warming; mine is more that it's impossible to know or prove.

But, since you study it so much, you have to know that warming does lead to more extreme weather patterns, whether it's caused by man or not...
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Well then you're an idiot. I've said human CO has a miniscule amount of forcing. That's not "man can't possibly influence warming" as you suggest. and it is knowable. But it takes honest scientists. Not fraudsters like Mann, Briffa, Hansen, Jones, Trenberth and a host of other government funded juck science peddlers.


There are no links between warming and extreme weather events. it's postulated that greater temps will lead to more moisture in the air and that the excess humidity is what is expected to increase the radiative effects. But the CO2 is not the real culprit.

You must not read anything I link. LOL piss off. you don't know shiot about the subject nor my positions
 
tinfoil said:
Well then you're an idiot. I've said human CO has a miniscule amount of forcing. That's not "man can't possibly influence warming" as you suggest. and it is knowable. But it takes honest scientists. Not fraudsters like Mann, Briffa, Hansen, Jones, Trenberth and a host of other government funded juck science peddlers.


There are no links between warming and extreme weather events. it's postulated that greater temps will lead to more moisture in the air and that the excess humidity is what is expected to increase the radiative effects. But the CO2 is not the real culprit.

You must not read anything I link. LOL piss off. you don't know shiot about the subject nor my positions
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A climate scientist was on O'reilly saying the cooler temps of the Pacific Ocean was creating cooler air that was combining with warm air from the Gulf and that is why there have been more tornado's...is this true?
 
Ice Dancer said:
A climate scientist was on O'reilly saying the cooler temps of the Pacific Ocean was creating cooler air that was combining with warm air from the Gulf and that is why there have been more tornado's...is this true?
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That's what the washington post link asserts. The whole point is that a tornado is a WEATHER event. Linking weather events to climate is called stupid when the climate isn't warming, but linking weather events to climate when climate is warming... BINGO! you got an argument! Proceed!
 
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