Ryan Bill Passes House

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The deed is done. The way our president tells it, senior citizens, children with autism, and, um, people who drive on bridges should be trembling with fear, or something.

In actuality, all American taxpayers should be proud that the people's House has acted to save the social safety net by halting its inexorable self-implosion while slowing and reversing the debt tsunami racing toward our fiscal shores -- all without raising taxes on families and small businesses during a punishing recession.

Conservatives should be filled with gratitude for Paul Ryan's courageous leadership on this very difficult issue, fraught with political risk. Kudos are also in order for the House Republican leadership, which has been the target of some conservative ire in recent days. They've unapologetically embraced Ryan's budget proposal and have empowered him to take the lead in defending its limited government, prosperity-driven agenda.

The victory tally was 235-193. Every Democrat voted no, along with four Republicans (one of whom was Ron Paul, natch). This exact bill won't pass the Senate, nor would it survive a presidential veto. That's besides the point. The GOP made a promise to voters prior to the 2010 elections, and today they've taken a major step toward holding up their end of the bargain. Republicans cannot control the irresponsibility or political machinations of their opponents. They can control their own policies and behavior. And at this crucial and defining moment in our history, Republicans have made a choice to put leadership ahead and politics. Bravo.

The stakes are high. A mighty political battle awaits.


UPDATE - "This is the most predictable economic crisis we've ever had in the history of this country."




UPDATE II - The president fired his craven opening salvo into this debate on Wednesday. The public wasn't impressed. He's slouched to a new low, according to Gallup:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/
 
Does anyone really think Ryan's plan to turn Medicare into a voucher program while cutting taxes for rich people is a good idea? Seriously. Ryan's "plan" is a joke.


Edit: Why don't you post Rasmussen's numbers? Suddenly, Gallup is your go to poll?
 
NigelTufnel said:
Does anyone really think Ryan's plan to turn Medicare into a voucher program while cutting taxes for rich people is a good idea? Seriously. Ryan's "plan" is a joke.
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Yeah, it passed in one house, but has little chance of passing in the Senate. I read that no Democrats voted for it! It was "forced" through.
 
Topspin said:
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You posted stats last week that show how3 the wealthy (small percentage of consumers numbers wise) are now spending on consumer goods percentage wise, as much as the middle class correct? If so then Ryan's tax cuts to the wealthy (making Bush tax cuts permanent) in combination with closing loopholes and his proposed VAT would actually increase tax revenues..no?
 
NigelTufnel said:
Does anyone really think Ryan's plan to turn Medicare into a voucher program while cutting taxes for rich people is a good idea? Seriously. Ryan's "plan" is a joke.


Edit: Why don't you post Rasmussen's numbers? Suddenly, Gallup is your go to poll?
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I get mine, it is safe thus far, it is all those people under the age of 55 that will have to sweat and find a way to make ends meet when they are old!
 
Rana said:
I get mine, it is safe thus far, it is all those people under the age of 55 that will have to sweat and find a way to make ends meet when they are old!
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That's if you can find a healthcare provider that will accept Medicare after it loses more and more of its beneficiaries. Think about it. Right now doctors accept Medicare's reimbursement rates because there are so many old people in Medicare that need healthcare services that doctors accept Medicare because of the volume of patients in Medicare. If fewer and fewer old people have Medicare as their insurance, doctors may find it in their interest to stop taking Medicare patients because the reimbursement rates are so low and there aren't really that many people that have it. So you may have Medicare, but you may not be able to find a doctor that takes it.
 
now we have two contrasting plans....Obama's and the vile opposition party's......Obama wants to increase spending in 2012, Ryan wants to cut over a trillion....we should compromise somewhere.....say nine hundred ninety nine billion.....
 
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