California Teachers Union Draws Fire for Rallying Behind Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamala

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Hey Yurt, did Fox news tell you to post this article? YOU posted it for a reason, just like Fox News published it for a reason. If Fox News tells you eating boogers is good for you, you will have a feast.

You are a mindless troll.

how am i mindless troll for posting a FACTUAL article....you're just a stupid hack who shoots the messenger...who cares where the story came from, if its FACTUAL, why do you have to call me a troll?

Yeah, there must. The fact that there are so many protests means that there is more to it than just the verdict. WHY is that so hard for you to understand?

this is amazing...you call me an asshole for saying you're defending the guy....i REPEATEDLY ask you if you believe he is not guilty and you don't respond....and here you stating you believe he may be...as there "must" be more to the story based on the logical fallacy of ad populum...well, all these people are protesting, so there must be more to the story, i can't dispute the facts, but my liberal masters believe this way, so i must also believe.......so YES, you are defending him. care to apologize now?

 

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the teachers are the least smart of college grads, and BF couldn't even get in.
You guys are seriously looking for something smart from him.
Shit I think he's doing good just mimicking the far left talking points at nausium.

 

[Bfgrn]

Like me, Yurt lives in California. Thus he is aware of the education isses we face in this state. I'm sure he had the same response as me. Why is the CTA involved in a cop killer case in PA?

Some people can chew gum and walk at the same time. You are conflating

 

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http://www.cft.org/uploads/Convention2011/docs/2011_CFT_Conv_Report.pdf

there is the resolution....is bfgrn going to bash that source as well

 

[Bfgrn]

how am i mindless troll for posting a FACTUAL article....you're just a stupid hack who shoots the messenger...who cares where the story came from, if its FACTUAL, why do you have to call me a troll?



this is amazing...you call me an asshole for saying you're defending the guy....i REPEATEDLY ask you if you believe he is not guilty and you don't respond....and here you stating you believe he may be...as there "must" be more to the story based on the logical fallacy of ad populum...well, all these people are protesting, so there must be more to the story, i can't dispute the facts, but my liberal masters believe this way, so i must also believe.......so YES, you are defending him. care to apologize now?

I don't know if he is guilty, I wasn't there...were YOU THERE Yurt?

 

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I don't know if he is guilty, I wasn't there...were YOU THERE Yurt?

i said BASED on the facts in the article....do you have anything to counter them? at least i'm following stated facts, you're ignorantly following ad populum....well, all these liberals are protesting, so i must believe them...you don't care about facts, you just care what your liberal gods tell you to say. you're blind partisan hack, you've come in bashing everyone for talking about CTF....why is that? why aren't we allowed to talk about them? why is it bad for fox to report on this? why is it you must defend the guy and CTF because others also protest this? you can't even produce any facts to the contrary, yet here you are blinding bashing everyone simply because other liberals defend this guy.

thats a classic definition of a hack.

i wonder if onceler and SF will be along to condemn for you not calling this guy a murderer, when he CONFESSED to the crime

 

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http://www.cft.org/uploads/Convention2011/docs/2011_CFT_Conv_Report.pdf

there is the resolution....is bfgrn going to bash that source as well

Resolution 19
Reaffirm support for death row journalist Mumia Abu-Jamal

Whereas, Mumia Abu-Jamal’s 1982 trial in Philadelphia was characterized by illegal suppression of evidence, police coercion, illegal exclusion of black jurors, and unfair and unconstitutional rulings by the judge; and

Whereas, the trial judge, Albert Sabo, has been quoted in a sworn statement to have vowed at the time of the trial to help the prosecution ‘fry the n-----;’ and

Whereas, subsequent appellate rulings have bent the law out of shape to sustain the guilty verdict of that trial; and

Whereas, the appellate courts have also refused to consider strong evidence of Mumia Abu-Jamal’s innocence that has emerged continuously in the years subsequent to the trial; and

Whereas, the U.S. Supreme Court, in denying relief to Mumia Abu-Jamal, ignored key precedents such as its own ruling in Batson v Kentucky, which was supposed to prevent exclusion of jurors on the basis of race; and

Whereas, Mumia Abu-Jamal still is incarcerated on Death Row while awaiting a decision from the U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals that could remove a stay on his execution; and

Whereas, Mumia Abu-Jamal has for decades as a journalist fought courageously against racism and police brutality and for the human rights of all people and has taken strong stands in support of working people involved in labor struggles and in support of well-funded, quality, public education; and

Whereas, the continued unjust incarceration of Mumia Abu-Jamal represents a threat to the civil rights of all people; and

Whereas, the CFT has at a previous Convention voiced its support for justice for Mumia Abu-Jamal;

Therefore, be it resolved, that the California Federation of Teachers reaffirm its support and demand that the courts consider the evidence of innocence of Mumia Abu-Jamal; and

Be it further resolved, that the CFT introduce and advocate on behalf of a resolution at the 2012

AFT Convention reaffirming the AFT’s support for justice for Mumia Abu-Jamal should he not have been cleared of charges and released by that time.

 

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I don't know if he is guilty, I wasn't there...were YOU THERE Yurt?

Well OJ is innocent so I can buy this argument. Were any of you a*holes there at S. Bundy when Nicole Brown was killed? Then don't speak about something you know nothing about.

 

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Resolution 19
Reaffirm support for death row journalist Mumia Abu-Jamal

Whereas, Mumia Abu-Jamal’s 1982 trial in Philadelphia was characterized by illegal suppression of evidence, police coercion, illegal exclusion of black jurors, and unfair and unconstitutional rulings by the judge; and

Whereas, the trial judge, Albert Sabo, has been quoted in a sworn statement to have vowed at the time of the trial to help the prosecution ‘fry the n-----;’ and

Whereas, subsequent appellate rulings have bent the law out of shape to sustain the guilty verdict of that trial; and

Whereas, the appellate courts have also refused to consider strong evidence of Mumia Abu-Jamal’s innocence that has emerged continuously in the years subsequent to the trial; and

Whereas, the U.S. Supreme Court, in denying relief to Mumia Abu-Jamal, ignored key precedents such as its own ruling in Batson v Kentucky, which was supposed to prevent exclusion of jurors on the basis of race; and

Whereas, Mumia Abu-Jamal still is incarcerated on Death Row while awaiting a decision from the U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals that could remove a stay on his execution; and

Whereas, Mumia Abu-Jamal has for decades as a journalist fought courageously against racism and police brutality and for the human rights of all people and has taken strong stands in support of working people involved in labor struggles and in support of well-funded, quality, public education; and

Whereas, the continued unjust incarceration of Mumia Abu-Jamal represents a threat to the civil rights of all people; and

Whereas, the CFT has at a previous Convention voiced its support for justice for Mumia Abu-Jamal;

Therefore, be it resolved, that the California Federation of Teachers reaffirm its support and demand that the courts consider the evidence of innocence of Mumia Abu-Jamal; and

Be it further resolved, that the CFT introduce and advocate on behalf of a resolution at the 2012

AFT Convention reaffirming the AFT’s support for justice for Mumia Abu-Jamal should he not have been cleared of charges and released by that time.

ZOMG....why did you quote from my cite!!!! you're a hack!!!!! did that source tell you to quote all that?!!!!?

:lol:

 

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Bfgrn, have you heard of this guy before? He's been a liberal cause celebrate (or whatever that term is) for years

 

[Bfgrn]

Well OJ is innocent so I can buy this argument. Were any of you a*holes there at S. Bundy when Nicole Brown was killed? Then don't speak about something you know nothing about.

There is clearly much more to this case. What is disturbing to me and what makes me so disgusted with right wingers is they are mindless authoritarian followers. The AUTHORITIES say he is guilty, so the case is closed.

If any of those Whereas are true, the man deserves a new trial. If police and DA's can get away with presenting false evidence or suppressing evidence of innocence, then we ARE under authoritarian rule. The right likes to accuse liberals of statism, but there is no BIGGER statist than an authoritarian follower.

 

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There is clearly much more to this case. What is disturbing to me and what makes me so disgusted with right wingers is they are mindless authoritarian followers. The AUTHORITIES say he is guilty, so the case is closed.

If any of those Whereas are true, the man deserves a new trial. If police and DA's can get away with presenting false evidence or suppressing evidence of innocence, then we ARE under authoritarian rule. The right likes to accuse liberals of statism, but there is no BIGGER statist than an authoritarian follower.

what is disturbing is a liberal hack like yourself mindlessly following your liberal authoritarian leaders based on ZERO facts....merely ad populum....you don't know jack about the case, you ignore the stated facts and simply because other liberals believe he is innocent, you do as well....

do you ever think for yourself? he confessed....do you have anything to say he did not?

 

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i said BASED on the facts in the article....do you have anything to counter them? at least i'm following stated facts, you're ignorantly following ad populum....well, all these liberals are protesting, so i must believe them...you don't care about facts, you just care what your liberal gods tell you to say. you're blind partisan hack, you've come in bashing everyone for talking about CTF....why is that? why aren't we allowed to talk about them? why is it bad for fox to report on this? why is it you must defend the guy and CTF because others also protest this? you can't even produce any facts to the contrary, yet here you are blinding bashing everyone simply because other liberals defend this guy.

thats a classic definition of a hack.

i wonder if onceler and SF will be along to condemn for you not calling this guy a murderer, when he CONFESSED to the crime

Stated facts...from Fox News...

 

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what is disturbing is a liberal hack like yourself mindlessly following your liberal authoritarian leaders based on ZERO facts....merely ad populum....you don't know jack about the case, you ignore the stated facts and simply because other liberals believe he is innocent, you do as well....

do you ever think for yourself? he confessed....do you have anything to say he did not?

You don't know jack about the case either, except what you read in an article by FOXNews quoting a conservative author or such non-biased titles a "Why the Left Hates America." You accept the "facts" stated by Daniel Flynn and believe he is guilty simply because a conservative author said so.

In short, the kettle is please to make your acquaintance.

 

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what is disturbing is a liberal hack like yourself mindlessly following your liberal authoritarian leaders based on ZERO facts....merely ad populum....you don't know jack about the case, you ignore the stated facts and simply because other liberals believe he is innocent, you do as well....

do you ever think for yourself? he confessed....do you have anything to say he did not?

I SAID, I don't know if he is guilty or innocent Yurt. A reasonable person would question why there is so much protest over this case. An authoritarian follower will swallow anything their beloved authority figures tell them. Because authority is NEVER WRONG...right Yurt? There are no bad authorities...right Yurt?

Well GUESS WHAT Yurt...

 

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You don't know jack about the case either, except what you read in an article by FOXNews quoting a conservative author or such non-biased titles a "Why the Left Hates America." You accept the "facts" stated by Daniel Flynn and believe he is guilty simply because a conservative author said so.

In short, the kettle is please to make your acquaintance.

nice try hack...i have read up on the case outside of fox

care to apologize for ASSuming? doubt you will...you never admit you're wrong

 

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Stated facts...from Fox News...

good grief....you obviously have not read anything about the case....because if you had...as i did to check fox's story, you would know fox reported what the GUY said (so not really fox idiot) is true...though i couldn't find anything about him being shot...the rest has citations outside of fox's story

 

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nice try hack...i have read up on the case outside of fox

care to apologize for ASSuming? doubt you will...you never admit you're wrong

Suuuuuuuuure, you did, Crawfish. I'll believe that when I get the $500 you owe me.

 

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There is clearly much more to this case. What is disturbing to me and what makes me so disgusted with right wingers is they are mindless authoritarian followers. The AUTHORITIES say he is guilty, so the case is closed.

If any of those Whereas are true, the man deserves a new trial. If police and DA's can get away with presenting false evidence or suppressing evidence of innocence, then we ARE under authoritarian rule. The right likes to accuse liberals of statism, but there is no BIGGER statist than an authoritarian follower.

There are numerous websites dedicated to this issue. I've had cops kick my ass, I don't trust everything they do or say. But I've also had a buddy who was a cop shot in cold blood like this guy did. So label me authoritarian all you would like for believing a man who murdered a cop and has been proven guilty is not some hero.

 

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the teachers are the least smart of college grads, and BF couldn't even get in.
You guys are seriously looking for something smart from him.
Shit I think he's doing good just mimicking the far left talking points at nausium.

Would you mind forming readable sentences?