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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/5/reporters-continue-to-be-snookered-by-obama/

The most stunning example of this has played out in the two weeks since the release of grisly photographs showing our own troops murdering Afghan citizens and posing for gruesome pictures with the corpses.

The last time America suffered such dishonor committed by a handful of rogue soldiers was in 2004 when disturbing pictures surfaced of soldiers abusing prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

The press was savage. The treatment of the prisoners, reporters insinuated, was a clear indication of beliefs held at the highest levels of the Bush administration.

In the weeks after Abu Ghraib came to light, White House reporters took every opportunity to demand answers from the very top of command.

In the course of just two press briefings and one short “gaggle” on Air Force One with the White House press secretary, reporters asked 97 questions about Abu Ghraib. President George W. Bush was compelled to give two interviews exclusively about the photos, and he was pressed about it during an unrelated event in the Rose Garden. The scandal dominated news coverage for months.

It would be fair to assume, then, that with the release of pictures so much more horrifying, revealing crimes so much more heinous, and against innocent civilians, that the press has been just as outraged and every bit as relentless in demanding answers from the top of command.

In the two weeks since the first photographs were revealed, just once has the White House been pressed publicly about the pictures. And that one time was just a “quick follow” to a question about another matter.

This, mind you, while the White House press corps in 15 briefings and gaggles over the past two weeks has managed to squeeze in eight questions about how that crazy preacher in Florida who burned the Koran is to blame for violence in Afghanistan.

Even when the press had an opportunity to personally grill Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. - who, as a senator, called for high-level resignations in the wake of Abu Ghraib - not a single question.

Now that is some change you can believe in.
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Interesting.....
 
Rolling Stone is a liberal rag, but they did a huge story on this in the past issue. The pics were horrifying; I'm pretty jaded, but I had a hard time reading through it.

I'm not really that shocked that more mainstream outlets stayed away....
 
It was on Yahoo too, don't think anyones too excited that we are producing so many murderers in our military.
 
Abu Ghraib isn't really an apt comparison, either. If you're looking for a comparable Bush-era story, it would be something like Haditha...
 
Onceler said:
Rolling Stone is a liberal rag, but they did a huge story on this in the past issue. The pics were horrifying; I'm pretty jaded, but I had a hard time reading through it.

I'm not really that shocked that more mainstream outlets stayed away....
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because of the gruesomeness of the photos or because Bush is no longer President?

I will check out RS.... while liberal, they at least remain consistent and give their viewpoint (normally) in a professional manner.
 
Superfreak said:
because of the gruesomeness of the photos or because Bush is no longer President?

I will check out RS.... while liberal, they at least remain consistent and give their viewpoint (normally) in a professional manner.
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I get kind of weary of the whole "media doesn't care because Bush isn't Prez anymore" whinefest. There were quite a few discussions on here about Afghanistan around last summer, talking about how you never see one headline or death tally regarding that conflict anymore. I've seen dozens of headlines on Afghanistan & death tolls since, and shake my head every time...
 
Onceler said:
I get kind of weary of the whole "media doesn't care because Bush isn't Prez anymore" whinefest. There were quite a few discussions on here about Afghanistan around last summer, talking about how you never see one headline or death tally regarding that conflict anymore. I've seen dozens of headlines on Afghanistan & death tolls since, and shake my head every time...
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yeah, it is a real 'whinefest'.... I mean why should the media pay attention to something 10 times worse than Abu Ghraib?

The coverage is nowhere near what it would be if the President had an (R) behind his name. No outrage in the media, no calls for firing top officials 'responsible' for the actions of the soldiers... nada. But yeah, people shouldn't bring up the hypocritical behavior of the media... because that would just be whining. Gotcha. Understood. Point taken.
 
Superfreak said:
yeah, it is a real 'whinefest'.... I mean why should the media pay attention to something 10 times worse than Abu Ghraib?

The coverage is nowhere near what it would be if the President had an (R) behind his name. No outrage in the media, no calls for firing top officials 'responsible' for the actions of the soldiers... nada. But yeah, people shouldn't bring up the hypocritical behavior of the media... because that would just be whining. Gotcha. Understood. Point taken.
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Superfreak said:
yeah, it is a real 'whinefest'.... I mean why should the media pay attention to something 10 times worse than Abu Ghraib?

The coverage is nowhere near what it would be if the President had an (R) behind his name. No outrage in the media, no calls for firing top officials 'responsible' for the actions of the soldiers... nada. But yeah, people shouldn't bring up the hypocritical behavior of the media... because that would just be whining. Gotcha. Understood. Point taken.
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Nah - it's a whinefest. Like I said, Haditha is the closest comparison, and the only reason that got significant coverage is because guys like Murtha were so vocal about it.

Abu Gharib was sensationalistic on levels that the current story is not. The fact is, the vast majority of journalists are interested in doing a good job, and in selling papers/air time. The "liberal media" BS you guys constantly spew is just that: BS. I have no doubt that the personal views of many in the media are more liberal, but at the levels you're talking about, we're generally talking about professional people who take a great deal of pride in their reporting, and don't see it as a chance to finally push an agenda.
 
Onceler said:
Nah - it's a whinefest. Like I said, Haditha is the closest comparison, and the only reason that got significant coverage is because guys like Murtha were so vocal about it.

Abu Gharib was sensationalistic on levels that the current story is not. The fact is, the vast majority of journalists are interested in doing a good job, and in selling papers/air time. The "liberal media" BS you guys constantly spew is just that: BS. I have no doubt that the personal views of many in the media are more liberal, but at the levels you're talking about, we're generally talking about professional people who take a great deal of pride in their reporting, and don't see it as a chance to finally push an agenda.
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Onceler said:
Oh, lord - Yurt is such a wuss....
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^ onceler ^
 
Hey, Yurtsie - since this thread is about the military & all, I was just wondering...is there still a draft on?
 
Onceler said:
Nah - it's a whinefest. Like I said, Haditha is the closest comparison, and the only reason that got significant coverage is because guys like Murtha were so vocal about it.

Abu Gharib was sensationalistic on levels that the current story is not. The fact is, the vast majority of journalists are interested in doing a good job, and in selling papers/air time. The "liberal media" BS you guys constantly spew is just that: BS. I have no doubt that the personal views of many in the media are more liberal, but at the levels you're talking about, we're generally talking about professional people who take a great deal of pride in their reporting, and don't see it as a chance to finally push an agenda.
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Oh do please enlighten us as to how Abu Ghraib is sensationalistic on levels this story is not. Please.... elaborate.
 
Superfreak said:
Oh do please enlighten us as to how Abu Ghraib is sensationalistic on levels this story is not. Please.... elaborate.
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Okay - with one, you have photos that no paper can really publish; check the RS if you doubt that.

On the other, you have photos that are like a theater of the bizarre, with some sex thrown in, that are much more publishable. Beyond all of that, Abu Gharib was a "new thing;" we have had abuses & illegal killings by our military in pretty much every major conflict we've been involved in.

Like I said - RS is the liberal rag of all liberal rags; they had as big an anti-Bush agenda as anyone out there. And they ran a huge story on it, because they can get away with printing pics like that...
 
Onceler said:
Hey, Yurtsie - since this thread is about the military & all, I was just wondering...is there still a draft on?
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yes, the draft is between your ears....

btw...you keep asking this question despite the fact i told you we do not have the draft and have an all volunteer military that you didn't realize we had. so not sure why you keep asking me, when i had to inform you. you're dumb like that....

i love your excuses btw....there aren't photos to make it sensational like abu....horse crap...there were plenty of stories while bush was president that make huge headlines....rape of women in the military etc....there were no pictures....but i know you will do anything to spin reality to conform to your world view.
 
Yurt said:
yes, the draft is between your ears....

btw...you keep asking this question despite the fact i told you we do not have the draft and have an all volunteer military that you didn't realize we had. so not sure why you keep asking me, when i had to inform you. you're dumb like that....

i love your excuses btw....there aren't photos to make it sensational like abu....horse crap...there were plenty of stories while bush was president that make huge headlines....rape of women in the military etc....there were no pictures....but i know you will do anything to spin reality to conform to your world view.
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Oh, that's right. I "didn't realize" we had an all-volunteer army, and you had to explain it to me. That's really plausible, o' pathological one.

And your memory of the Bush years fits right into your pathology. You're one of the ones who was screaming & whining for months about how the media wasn't covering deaths in Afghanistan, and there have been dozens of headlines in the past year, on everything from CNN to MSNBC to RS.

That whiny little persecution complex you have about Bush. And it's hilarious that you say others whine when they bring up Fox, but you're whiner-in-chief when it comes to the 'librul media.' Typical Yurtsie projection on everything...
 
Onceler said:
Oh, that's right. I "didn't realize" we had an all-volunteer army, and you had to explain it to me. That's really plausible, o' pathological one.

And your memory of the Bush years fits right into your pathology. You're one of the ones who was screaming & whining for months about how the media wasn't covering deaths in Afghanistan, and there have been dozens of headlines in the past year, on everything from CNN to MSNBC to RS.

That whiny little persecution complex you have about Bush. And it's hilarious that you say others whine when they bring up Fox, but you're whiner-in-chief when it comes to the 'librul media.' Typical Yurtsie projection on everything...
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yes, i did have to explain it to you...you said, unlike doctors who CHOOSE to work and perform abortions, our soldiers do not choose.....however, they do in fact choose to be there, the only other option is a non voluntary military. you claimed they didn't choose, not me.

it is nothing compared to the years under bush. that is a pure and simple fact and no amount of spin and crying from you will change that. and if you notice, i haven't created a thread about it in a LONG time, yet you're still whining like little a girl. the only reason you think others are whining is because its all you do and know.

i know pointing out facts and hypocrisy bothers you, you prefer to live in a fantasy world. have at it....
 
Yurt said:
yes, i did have to explain it to you...you said, unlike doctors who CHOOSE to work and perform abortions, our soldiers do not choose.....however, they do in fact choose to be there, the only other option is a non voluntary military. you claimed they didn't choose, not me.

it is nothing compared to the years under bush. that is a pure and simple fact and no amount of spin and crying from you will change that. and if you notice, i haven't created a thread about it in a LONG time, yet you're still whining like little a girl. the only reason you think others are whining is because its all you do and know.

i know pointing out facts and hypocrisy bothers you, you prefer to live in a fantasy world. have at it....
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Wow - what a huge post of lies. You've really upped the ante on your previous lie-to-word ratio...I think it's possible that you are simply unable to stop lying now.
 
Yurt said:
and once again with the

YOU'RE A LIAR!!!!!

you're the pathological one onceler
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No, no - I'm not. Like I said - I never in a million years said that our military does not volunteer.

You're in a deep spiral of lies now...
 
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