the wealthy are different, they think that the rules do not apply to them

And here is a little soupcon of masonic info:

You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him...It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations.

Ronayne
Handbook of Masonry, page 183
 
And more:

'Presiding in the East',
'Worshipful Master' Kenny Noye...

The life of Kenneth Noye has been one of malevolence and corruption. It is an example of how someone eagerly embracing crime as a profession can accumulate enormous wealth and frightening power.

Detectives untangling his network of corruption now believe that at least one prominent MP was in his pay.

Such was the apprehension and nervousness created by the extent of Noye's corruption of the police that during the investigation into Stephen Cameron's murder officers were given around-the-clock protection from their colleagues. Others changed their telephone numbers. The Noye file on the case was restricted to less than a dozen senior officers.

In 1977 after being arrested by Scotland Yard for receiving stolen goods Noye joined the Hammersmith Freemason's Lodge in west London. He was proposed and seconded by two Police Officers. He eventually rose to be the Master of the Lodge with the support of the membership of which the Police made up a sizeable proportion. Other Masons included dealers in gold and other precious metals. A little while later Noye was being helped out of an arrest by a detective who was a fellow Mason.

One of Noye's police contacts was prepared to intervene on his behalf not just with fellow officers, but other law agencies. The detective approached a Customs officer investigating Noye in the early 80s and pressured him to "lay off".

April 13, 2000
The Independent, U.K.
By Kim Sengupta and Paul Lashmar


You need to check out the situation in the US. Rich or poor? No. Power and servitude. Money is only a substitute for real power for those who lack the ability or the contacts to be naturally powerful.
 
And here is a little soupcon of masonic info:

You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him...It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations.

Ronayne
Handbook of Masonry, page 183


i find your displeasure against free masons interesting, especially the item regarding the obligation of one free mason to another

as a master mason who has sworn the oaths of freemasonry, i do not recall what you have written

of course i may be just one of the lowly soldier Freemasons, i am unaware of any oaths above master mason that you espouse, at least in the California Freemasons

my adoptive father was also a Freemason and sat in the east as the worshipful master of a lodge

however, once upon a time the free masons were quite politically powerful until the members of one lodge in the midwest over stepped themselves - since then the power of freemasonry has waned

i have sat in various lodges in california and canada and never seen any signs of that which you speak
 
And more:

'Presiding in the East',
'Worshipful Master' Kenny Noye...

The life of Kenneth Noye has been one of malevolence and corruption. It is an example of how someone eagerly embracing crime as a profession can accumulate enormous wealth and frightening power.

Detectives untangling his network of corruption now believe that at least one prominent MP was in his pay.

Such was the apprehension and nervousness created by the extent of Noye's corruption of the police that during the investigation into Stephen Cameron's murder officers were given around-the-clock protection from their colleagues. Others changed their telephone numbers. The Noye file on the case was restricted to less than a dozen senior officers.

In 1977 after being arrested by Scotland Yard for receiving stolen goods Noye joined the Hammersmith Freemason's Lodge in west London. He was proposed and seconded by two Police Officers. He eventually rose to be the Master of the Lodge with the support of the membership of which the Police made up a sizeable proportion. Other Masons included dealers in gold and other precious metals. A little while later Noye was being helped out of an arrest by a detective who was a fellow Mason.

One of Noye's police contacts was prepared to intervene on his behalf not just with fellow officers, but other law agencies. The detective approached a Customs officer investigating Noye in the early 80s and pressured him to "lay off".

April 13, 2000
The Independent, U.K.
By Kim Sengupta and Paul Lashmar


You need to check out the situation in the US. Rich or poor? No. Power and servitude. Money is only a substitute for real power for those who lack the ability or the contacts to be naturally powerful.

i dispute your prejudice against free masonry :(

as for the rich craving power, i have no dispute - however, my nephew is acquiring wealth and his business will reach beyond a million dollars this year, his sole reason for acquiring such wealth is to be able to take of himself and his family (including my brother and i, his sister, mother-in-law, his wife and his nieces and nephews)

when he has acquired sufficient wealth for the above purposes, he will sell his business and retire to spend his time with his family - at the rate that his business is growing, he should reach that level within 7 years :)
 
i dispute your prejudice against free masonry :(

as for the rich craving power, i have no dispute - however, my nephew is acquiring wealth and his business will reach beyond a million dollars this year, his sole reason for acquiring such wealth is to be able to take of himself and his family (including my brother and i, his sister, mother-in-law, his wife and his nieces and nephews)

when he has acquired sufficient wealth for the above purposes, he will sell his business and retire to spend his time with his family - at the rate that his business is growing, he should reach that level within 7 years :)

He will not be 'rich'. He will have enough for his needs and wants but will not be 'rich'.
If you dispute my comments about Freemasonry I would respectfully suggest that you are taking a defensive stance. That might be because you are a member (foot soldier) or that a member of your family is a member.
My father was a mason and spent several hours explaining the basics to me. Originally he wanted me to follow him and when I refused he and I fell out big time. Later in his life he instigated a big father and son session at which he told me all. At this, my brother, a chaser after the crumbs of the rich and a foot soldier, left our family.
To a mason only masons exist. Sociopaths make excellent masons.
 
i find your displeasure against free masons interesting, especially the item regarding the obligation of one free mason to another

as a master mason who has sworn the oaths of freemasonry, i do not recall what you have written

of course i may be just one of the lowly soldier Freemasons, i am unaware of any oaths above master mason that you espouse, at least in the California Freemasons

my adoptive father was also a Freemason and sat in the east as the worshipful master of a lodge

however, once upon a time the free masons were quite politically powerful until the members of one lodge in the midwest over stepped themselves - since then the power of freemasonry has waned

i have sat in various lodges in california and canada and never seen any signs of that which you speak

I am quite prepared to accept that American Freemasonry is less corrupt that UK freemasonry. But 'less' does not necessarily clean.
BTW I replied to your next post before I had read this one.
 
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