Boots on the ground?

C'Thulhu said:
As of yet, it's not an invasion. An invasion requires the use of ground forces in an attempt to take and control territory. We've deployed a squad of ground troops to retrieve a downed airmen, and then removed said squad. That's not an invasion.
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based on what authority? we invaded their airspace with warbirds and over 150 missiles....are you telling me that if libya did the same to us, our government would not consider than an invasion? i find that hard to believe....
 
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Yurt said:
based on what authority? we invaded their airspace with warbirds and over 150 missiles....are you telling me that if libya did the same to us, our government would not consider than an invasion? i find that hard to believe....
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What they consider it and what it actually is are two different things.
 
C'Thulhu said:
It's in my first post. Whether they would call it an invasion or a ice cream social does not change that fact that it is neither.
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on what authority do you base that? is there a code, a law? what? is in the military handbook that invasions are only if ground forces are used? i think it does make a difference what people call it, unless you can cite authority, because its essentially what you're calling it, vs. what others would call it.
 
Yurt said:
on what authority do you base that? is there a code, a law? what? is in the military handbook that invasions are only if ground forces are used? i think it does make a difference what people call it, unless you can cite authority, because its essentially what you're calling it, vs. what others would call it.
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Standard military protocols and tactical doctrine involved. The purpose of air power, since its inception, is to assist ground forces (or naval forces). And the purpose of ground forces is to, ultimately, destroy an opposing ground force. Since you're using the concept of Libyan air power striking American soil, if it is unaccompanied by Libyan forces it would only be considered a strike, at best a preemption for an invasion by ground forces. This has been the basis of ALL military invasions since.... ever.
 
Yurt said:
i'm ASKING you nitwit...again the irony of you claiming others can't read. you can't even comprehend what a question is. if it is not boots on the ground, what is it?
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And you have the balls to question my use of sarcasm/irony/hyperbole ???
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To ask a question like this even in jest is bordering on being certifiably moronic....its no wonder Onceler ridicules your every post....
 
C'Thulhu said:
Standard military protocols and tactical doctrine involved. The purpose of air power, since its inception, is to assist ground forces (or naval forces). And the purpose of ground forces is to, ultimately, destroy an opposing ground force. Since you're using the concept of Libyan air power striking American soil, if it is unaccompanied by Libyan forces it would only be considered a strike, at best a preemption for an invasion by ground forces. This has been the basis of ALL military invasions since.... ever.
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what does the term "invade airspace" mean? seems to me, it means you're invading whose ever airspace you're invading. and here, it is more than just invading airspace, we're dropping bombs on their soil. so according to you, dropping bombs on soil is not an invasion, unless its followed by boots on the ground. ok, can you please cite some authority? what book or doctrine are you referring to? and if this is the doctrine since...ever....why would our leaders and military think or call it an invasion if libya did the same to us? to me, that means it hasn't been forever, rather, its been our semantics game of downplaying what we're doing. like not declaring war, but in all actions conduct war. its war in everything but name..."technically"....

seems like political speak to me
 
bravo said:
And you have the balls to question my use of sarcasm/irony/hyperbole ???
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To ask a question like this even in jest is bordering on being certifiably moronic....its no wonder Onceler ridicules your every post....
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since he ridicules you in every post....what does that say about you....LOL
 
Yurt said:
what does the term "invade airspace" mean? seems to me, it means you're invading whose ever airspace you're invading. and here, it is more than just invading airspace, we're dropping bombs on their soil. so according to you, dropping bombs on soil is not an invasion, unless its followed by boots on the ground. ok, can you please cite some authority? what book or doctrine are you referring to? and if this is the doctrine since...ever....why would our leaders and military think or call it an invasion if libya did the same to us? to me, that means it hasn't been forever, rather, its been our semantics game of downplaying what we're doing. like not declaring war, but in all actions conduct war. its war in everything but name..."technically"....

seems like political speak to me
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Let me answer that after I've had a few drinks. For some reason it'll sound better.
 
bravo said:
But he doesn't
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he ridicules you as much, if not more than me....have you seen all his posts splattered over the forum telling other posters they are as bad as you? wake up...the dude ridicules quite often and at times, far more vitriol than he tries with me. don't confuse our pissing matches with his vitriol......
 
C'Thulhu said:
Let me answer that after I've had a few drinks. For some reason it'll sound better.
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i'm so glad i'm home early after finishing a huge project, because i really LOL'd

though, if had been at work, no one would have cared and the others would have probably stopped by and asked "what is so funny?!!!"
 
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