It's about teaching the children... to be good little pinhead protesters!

Rtber said:
Couldn't afford a quality education for your child? I suppose it's natural to make excuses for the failed unionized education monopoly, if only to assuage your own guilt.
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Actually, we evaluated two of the local private schools and decided in favor of the public system. :)
 
Dixie said:
Did they give him gold stars, koolaid and cookies too? I bet you were proud! And I bet thousands of proud parents feel exactly the same as you about their kid. My daughter also graduated top of her class, but I am intelligent enough to realize, if she had to compete with a Japanese student who also graduated top of his class in Japan, she would probably pale in comparison. We've established a very low bar for "excellence" in education, so it's no great feat that your son or my daughter were at the top of their class, and it doesn't mean they got the best education money could buy, or that they are necessarily "smart!" We think they are, because we are parents, and because the "school" has given them accolades, and we look at the GPAs and gold stars, and it seems impressive to us, as proud parents.. but what does it mean, really?

Look at the overall numbers, look at how our kids are faring compared with the Japanese... realize that we are failing our children by adopting this passive attitude about the education system, which is not doing an adequate job of educating. The choice is to keep dumping our tax money into this liberally insane system, or adopt some new system, where we control the level and quality of education with our purse strings.
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WOW...the way Dix expresses his "love" for his little girl is just so...so...touching, ya know?

Calling his own daughter stupid...MAN...now that is love of the purest kind.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I can't comment on the comparison with Japanese schools only to say that many come to the US to study engineering. And as I said before my son as a high GPA at one of the top rated engineering schools in the US.
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Why are you talking about Engineering school, when we are discussing federally funded public school systems? Elementary and secondary education has absolutely nothing to do with public or privately funded advanced education.

What do you mean you can't comment on the comparison with Japanese schools? The fact of the matter is, Japanese students are much better educated than American students. That's just plain out a fact of life, it can't be debated, therefore, you can't comment on it. Thanks for conceding my point.

The federally-funded education system in America is controlled and operated by progressive liberals, who have absolutely NO intention of actually educating children! They do intend to fool you into thinking that's what they want to do... but what they really want, is a mechanism to indoctrinate and brainwash your children into accepting progressive ideology, and grow to not question it. This has been happening incrementally over decades, and is now systemic. It is fueled by dollars generated from the taxpayer, and it all needs to stop.
 
Dixie said:
I guess you never heard of Satan? The Bible actually portrays Satan as being more powerful than God, because of temptation. It is much easier for Satan to recruit mindless nitwits like yourself, because he can dishonestly tempt you with all kinds of decadence. God can only tempt you with eternal salvation, which is a bum deal for an idiot who doesn't believe in the afterlife, it's much more appealing to get your 'rewards' now, which is what Satan promises.
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I didn't say I didn't believe in an after-life.

What I want to know is why Satan and 1/3 of the angels rebelled against God.

I want to know why God destroyed entire cities like Sodom and Gomorrah. Have you ever heard of a city without children? Why would God do that?

What I want to know is how a human being can be born in sin? Of what crime is a newborn guilty?

Now, I've heard a possible reason for the latter is due to genetic manipulation which would, in a manner of speaking, be a sin against a pure race. In other words the "sin" is in the actual make-up of a human being.

Far fetched? I'm open to other suggestions.
 
Dixie said:
Why are you talking about Engineering school, when we are discussing federally funded public school systems? Elementary and secondary education has absolutely nothing to do with public or privately funded advanced education.

What do you mean you can't comment on the comparison with Japanese schools? The fact of the matter is, Japanese students are much better educated than American students. That's just plain out a fact of life, it can't be debated, therefore, you can't comment on it. Thanks for conceding my point.

The federally-funded education system in America is controlled and operated by progressive liberals, who have absolutely NO intention of actually educating children! They do intend to fool you into thinking that's what they want to do... but what they really want, is a mechanism to indoctrinate and brainwash your children into accepting progressive ideology, and grow to not question it. This has been happening incrementally over decades, and is now systemic. It is fueled by dollars generated from the taxpayer, and it all needs to stop.
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I mentioned an engineering school for two reasons:
1. The public engineering schools compete head-to-head with the private ones.
2. Being successful at a top engineering school is evidence that you obtained an excellent K-12 education.

Liberals dominate all schools, public and private. I found it very easy to eliminate the impact of liberal indoctrination of my kids by discussing some of their lessons with them. For example, when they learned in US history that the Democrat Party supported slavery and segregation and the GOP championed civil rights (true) then in the 1960's the two parties "switched" positions (false) I simply asked them: "does that make sense, that after over 100 years of battling against each other that in a span of a few years each would adopt the opposing philosophy?"

Unlike the indoctrinated libtards in this forum, my kids are smart enough to realize when something is true or not. And like most smart people, when lied to they don't forget who lied to them, and remember never to trust that person or ideology again.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I mentioned an engineering school for two reasons:
1. The public engineering schools compete head-to-head with the private ones.
2. Being successful at a top engineering school is evidence that you obtained an excellent K-12 education.

Liberals dominate all schools, public and private. I found it very easy to eliminate the impact of liberal indoctrination of my kids by discussing some of their lessons with them. For example, when they learned in US history that the Democrat Party supported slavery and segregation and the GOP championed civil rights (true) then in the 1960's the two parties "switched" positions (false) I simply asked them: "does that make sense, that after over 100 years of battling against each other that in a span of a few years each would adopt the opposing philosophy?"

Unlike the indoctrinated libtards in this forum, my kids are smart enough to realize when something is true or not. And like most smart people, when lied to they don't forget who lied to them, and remember never to trust that person or ideology again.
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So you think that the K-12 union monopoly system is fine?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
WOW...the way Dix expresses his "love" for his little girl is just so...so...touching, ya know?

Calling his own daughter stupid...MAN...now that is love of the purest kind.
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I don't see that. He was accurately assessing the state of public "education" in the US compared to Japan.
 
Rtber said:
I don't see that. He was accurately assessing the state of public "education" in the US compared to Japan.
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Then we'll just have to disagree.

My brother has two wonderful, smart little girls who are doing just fine in our public education system.

One has already skipped one grade and is taking several AP classes...the other has shown an amazing aptitude for the piano and is going to be a musical genius.

People discount our education system because they don't agree with 100% of what is taught. Kids fail in public schools because their parents aren't willing to do their part at home to help further their children's education.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Then we'll just have to disagree.

My brother has two wonderful, smart little girls who are doing just fine in our public education system.

One has already skipped one grade and is taking several AP classes...the other has shown an amazing aptitude for the piano and is going to be a musical genius.

People discount our education system because they don't agree with 100% of what is taught. Kids fail in public schools because their parents aren't willing to do their part at home to help further their children's education.
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You may think our public system is "fine"; unfortunately, the statistics don't favor that optimism.

http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2011/02/11/u-s-education-continues-decline/

http://www.growthology.org/growthology/2008/07/educational-dec.html

http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/hiedfuture/reports/equity.pdf

http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/6325
 
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