I believe a declaration of war is different then the humanitarian effort that is behind a/this "no fly zone"...I am certainly open to correction if it can be provided.
prospect of impeachment ?????? Really ?
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I believe a declaration of war is different then the humanitarian effort that is behind a/this "no fly zone"...I am certainly open to correction if it can be provided.
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Launching cruise missiles is an act of war.
Article 1, Sec. 8 states that only Congress has the authority to declare war.
50 U.S.C. 1541-1548 states that the president may undertake the use of military force if "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."
It also says that the President MUST consult with Congress.
"in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities"
Article 1, Sec. 8 states that only Congress has the authority to declare war.
50 U.S.C. 1541-1548 states that the president may undertake the use of military force if "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."
It also says that the President MUST consult with Congress.
"in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities"
Makes you wonder why there is no 'humanitarian effort' in the Sudan where a million civilians have been killed, raped, robbed and beaten for fun....
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Here's our "humanitarian effort":
"TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) -- After a barrage of attacks by sea-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles Saturday, an array of U.S. warplanes -- including several Air force B-2 stealth bombers -- followed in the pre-dawn hours Sunday with a coordinated assault using precision-guided bombs, according to a U.S. military official.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military missions, said the planes included Air Force F-15s and F-16s, Navy EA-18G electronic warfare planes and Marine attack jets. Navy EA-18G Growlers launched from unspecified land bases to provide electronic warfare support over Libya. Marine AV-8B Harriers from the USS Kearsarge sailing in the Mediterranean conducted strikes against Gadhafi's ground forces and air defenses.
Muammar Gaddafi vowed a "long war" against the international military force that struck at his forces with airstrikes and dozens of cruise missiles that shook the Libyan capital early Sunday with the sound of explosions and anti-aircraft fire. In the capital of the rebel-held east, the Libyan leader's guns appeared to go silent.
State television said 48 people died in the U.S. and European strikes, which marked the widest international military effort since the Iraq war and came as the rebels saw a month's worth of gains reversed by Gaddafi's overwhelming firepower."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/20/us-libya-stealth-bombers-fighter-jets_n_838076.html
"TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) -- After a barrage of attacks by sea-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles Saturday, an array of U.S. warplanes -- including several Air force B-2 stealth bombers -- followed in the pre-dawn hours Sunday with a coordinated assault using precision-guided bombs, according to a U.S. military official.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military missions, said the planes included Air Force F-15s and F-16s, Navy EA-18G electronic warfare planes and Marine attack jets. Navy EA-18G Growlers launched from unspecified land bases to provide electronic warfare support over Libya. Marine AV-8B Harriers from the USS Kearsarge sailing in the Mediterranean conducted strikes against Gadhafi's ground forces and air defenses.
Muammar Gaddafi vowed a "long war" against the international military force that struck at his forces with airstrikes and dozens of cruise missiles that shook the Libyan capital early Sunday with the sound of explosions and anti-aircraft fire. In the capital of the rebel-held east, the Libyan leader's guns appeared to go silent.
State television said 48 people died in the U.S. and European strikes, which marked the widest international military effort since the Iraq war and came as the rebels saw a month's worth of gains reversed by Gaddafi's overwhelming firepower."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/20/us-libya-stealth-bombers-fighter-jets_n_838076.html
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You could try Googling.
Yes, as a mater of fact, it does...and I have thought about it. We all have to agree that it is oil. I am unapologetic for that fact-but I am disgusted by our politicians disingenuos pandering about humanitarianism (though I personally think it is humane to help anti Ghadafi rebels). I am especially disgusted that we conservatives are not saying we need to protect oil interests in an open and honest way clarifying the economic need to do so. And for you folks who think we should get off ME oil then let us fucking drill here and drill NOW!
I did...if you have better luck post your fucking bragging rights~
The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C. 1541–1548) was a United States Congress joint resolution providing that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or if the United States is already under attack or serious threat. The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war.
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clinton violation of war powers act
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I was asking with the wrong question-or are you? The point in question is not the duration of the NFZ but the initial commitment. Clintons violation was in exceeding the 60 day limitation imposed by the WPA.
Apparently the initial commitment was legal?
apple0154
MEOW
I have to paraphrase Bravo, msg #1,"Never in my wildest imagination did I ever think I would be agreeing with the likes of Ron Paul."
apple0154
MEOW
Are you OK, Ice Dancer? Going by your rough language lately it appears you're more cranky/irritable than usual.
Are you OK, Ice Dancer? Going by your rough language lately it appears you're more cranky/irritable than usual.
I was being funny in a facetious sort of way...
apple0154
MEOW
Ahhh, ok. Just thought I'd check in.
I thought "bragging rights" gave it away...I guess I am just too subtle~
christiefan915
Catalyst
christiefan915
Catalyst
Congressional approval based on the phony intel they were fed.
The US Navy was attacked in March and Reagan retaliated in April....what "position" do you think I should have taken?
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What is your point?
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On 23 March 1986, US aircraft from the three carriers crossed the "Line of Death" and began operating in the Gulf. On 24 March at 06:00, USS Ticonderoga (CG-47), accompanied by two destroyers, USS Scott (DDG-995) and USS Caron (DD-970), moved south of the "Line", covered by fighter aircraft. A Libyan missile installation near Surt (Sirte) launched two Soviet-made SA-5 "Gammon" surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) at 07:52, toward F-14A Tomcats of America's VF-102. Two hours later, two MiG-25s took off from Benina air base with orders to intercept and shoot down some of the US fighters.[ Before the Libyan aircraft could get close enough, a US E-2C Hawkeye detected them and alerted two F-14s from VF-33, which intercepted the MiGs at 20,000 feet (6,100 m). The Libyans began aggressive head-on maneuvering in an effort to get into firing positions on the two F-14s; this was a clear sign of hostile intentions
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