Defund NPR/PBS

:rolleyes:

How many of my tax dollars go to NPR?
NPR receives no direct funding from the federal government. Less than two percent of the budget is derived from competitive grants from federally funded organizations such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, National Science Foundation, and National Endowment for the Arts.


HOW NPR IS ACTUALLY FUNDED (HINT: NOT HOW YOU MIGHT THINK)

Every time NPR makes a controversial decision, some unhappy people demand the federal government cut its funding.

This time, it's former Govs. Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich — paid Fox News contributors --who are jumping to the defense of Juan Williams after his unceremonious firing.

In an open letter to President Obama, Palin writes:

NPR is unable to tolerate an honest debate about an issue as important as Islamic terrorism, then it's time for "National Public Radio" to become "National Private Radio." It's time for Congress to defund this organization.

And Huckabee, in a statement provided to CNN, says:

It is time for the taxpayers to start making cuts to federal spending, and I encourage the new Congress to start with NPR.

And now the AP reports:

In response to the firing, South Carolina Republican U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint planned to introduce legislation to end federal funding for NPR, his spokesman Wesley Denton said Thursday night. Denton said the senator would expand upon his proposal in a statement on Friday.

Thing is, NPR receives no direct funding from the federal government for operations. NPR provides a breakdown of its funding sources on its website. You can view a breakdown in the slideshow.

The largest share of NPR funding comes from its member stations in local towns like yours.

The local stations receive some funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a taxpayer-funded, nonprofit, private corporation, created by Congress in 1967.

NPR does receive grants from CPB for special projects, but that funding is not included as part of the network's operations budget.

So while federal dollars do flow to NPR, the connection is indirect. It may be a fine point, but it's an important distinction. The federal government can't "defund" NPR. What Congress can do is cut CPB funding --which has diminished over the years and has, at times, been threatened.

But those CPB funds play a minor role for stations in larger cities like New York, Chicago, Dallas, St. Louis San Diego and so on. However, CPB funds represent a much higher percentage for a station in smaller cities in rural states like Wyoming, Nebraska and Idaho.

Calls to cut taxpayer funding of CPB would mostly hurt small stations --stations that played no part in the decision to fire Juan Williams.



Last year's CPB funding was $400 million, which equates to about $1.33 for every man woman and child in America.
According to NPR's 2009 annual financial statement, they received about $100 million in grants and fees. Assuming 60 percent of that originated as CPB fees, then the average per-person-funding is a whopping 20 cents!
Local stations choose to purchase NPR content, or not. If they don't, then NPR gets no direct or indirect federal funds from that station. If you have a problem with this, then encourage your local station not to buy NPR content. That's where your protest should go; that's what Palin, Huckabee, DeMint and others should be arguing.
You can still make the argument that Congress shouldn't fund the CPB, but that will leave big markets still able to purchase NPR content while smaller markets will suffer. If you're OK with that, fine. And yes, that will hurt NPR to a certain extent. However, I don't think this can be called a "shell game": NPR is not federally funded.

http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/how-npr-is-actually-funded-hint-not-how-you-think
 
HOW NPR IS ACTUALLY FUNDED (HINT: NOT HOW YOU MIGHT THINK)

Every time NPR makes a controversial decision, some unhappy people demand the federal government cut its funding.

This time, it's former Govs. Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich — paid Fox News contributors --who are jumping to the defense of Juan Williams after his unceremonious firing.

In an open letter to President Obama, Palin writes:

NPR is unable to tolerate an honest debate about an issue as important as Islamic terrorism, then it's time for "National Public Radio" to become "National Private Radio." It's time for Congress to defund this organization.

And Huckabee, in a statement provided to CNN, says:

It is time for the taxpayers to start making cuts to federal spending, and I encourage the new Congress to start with NPR.

And now the AP reports:

In response to the firing, South Carolina Republican U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint planned to introduce legislation to end federal funding for NPR, his spokesman Wesley Denton said Thursday night. Denton said the senator would expand upon his proposal in a statement on Friday.

Thing is, NPR receives no direct funding from the federal government for operations. NPR provides a breakdown of its funding sources on its website. You can view a breakdown in the slideshow.

The largest share of NPR funding comes from its member stations in local towns like yours.

The local stations receive some funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a taxpayer-funded, nonprofit, private corporation, created by Congress in 1967.

NPR does receive grants from CPB for special projects, but that funding is not included as part of the network's operations budget.

So while federal dollars do flow to NPR, the connection is indirect. It may be a fine point, but it's an important distinction. The federal government can't "defund" NPR. What Congress can do is cut CPB funding --which has diminished over the years and has, at times, been threatened.

But those CPB funds play a minor role for stations in larger cities like New York, Chicago, Dallas, St. Louis San Diego and so on. However, CPB funds represent a much higher percentage for a station in smaller cities in rural states like Wyoming, Nebraska and Idaho.

Calls to cut taxpayer funding of CPB would mostly hurt small stations --stations that played no part in the decision to fire Juan Williams.



Last year's CPB funding was $400 million, which equates to about $1.33 for every man woman and child in America.
According to NPR's 2009 annual financial statement, they received about $100 million in grants and fees. Assuming 60 percent of that originated as CPB fees, then the average per-person-funding is a whopping 20 cents!
Local stations choose to purchase NPR content, or not. If they don't, then NPR gets no direct or indirect federal funds from that station. If you have a problem with this, then encourage your local station not to buy NPR content. That's where your protest should go; that's what Palin, Huckabee, DeMint and others should be arguing.
You can still make the argument that Congress shouldn't fund the CPB, but that will leave big markets still able to purchase NPR content while smaller markets will suffer. If you're OK with that, fine. And yes, that will hurt NPR to a certain extent. However, I don't think this can be called a "shell game": NPR is not federally funded.

http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/how-npr-is-actually-funded-hint-not-how-you-think

good to see that liberals agree that since federal funding is so minimal, there is no need for it.

Shut down the CPB and let the stations and NPR in general fund themselves.

Good call Zappa.
 
I have no problems whatsoever with defunding NPR or PBS. Things are SO much different now than they were when the gov't started funding both; if there is one thing we're not lacking anymore, it's sources of information, entertainment and anything else that either offers. And I agree that they could survive on their own, anyway, with more advertising.

People have to pick their battles; it's not much money, but if it's a choice between cutting this funding & cutting funding for an early education program or something that will actually impact lives, it's a no brainer. And we're at a point where we have to make those choices.
 
I have no problems whatsoever with defunding NPR or PBS. Things are SO much different now than they were when the gov't started funding both; if there is one thing we're not lacking anymore, it's sources of information, entertainment and anything else that either offers. And I agree that they could survive on their own, anyway, with more advertising.

People have to pick their battles; it's not much money, but if it's a choice between cutting this funding & cutting funding for an early education program or something that will actually impact lives, it's a no brainer. And we're at a point where we have to make those choices.

exactly
 
good to see that liberals agree that since federal funding is so minimal, there is no need for it.

Shut down the CPB and let the stations and NPR in general fund themselves.

Good call Zappa.

I actually agree with you on this...the more I read and the more I see just how small the Government funding of NPR and CPB are, the more I believe we should just defund and let their pledge drives take up the slack.

I don't think it should be done all at once...maybe spread the defunding out over three years, but I am with you on this...
 
I actually agree with you on this...the more I read and the more I see just how small the Government funding of NPR and CPB are, the more I believe we should just defund and let their pledge drives take up the slack.

I don't think it should be done all at once...maybe spread the defunding out over three years, but I am with you on this...

:good4u:

now lets agree on defense spending cuts.....
 
there's a shit ton of outdated and duplicate covered responsibilities reported last week by the GAO.
A good start is places both dems and repubs think should get axed.
 
I have no problems whatsoever with defunding NPR or PBS. Things are SO much different now than they were when the gov't started funding both; if there is one thing we're not lacking anymore, it's sources of information, entertainment and anything else that either offers. And I agree that they could survive on their own, anyway, with more advertising.

People have to pick their battles; it's not much money, but if it's a choice between cutting this funding & cutting funding for an early education program or something that will actually impact lives, it's a no brainer. And we're at a point where we have to make those choices.

How much to bet that your beloved Democrats will claim that the GOP wants to kill Barney? :)
 
I have no problems whatsoever with defunding NPR or PBS. Things are SO much different now than they were when the gov't started funding both; if there is one thing we're not lacking anymore, it's sources of information, entertainment and anything else that either offers. And I agree that they could survive on their own, anyway, with more advertising.

People have to pick their battles; it's not much money, but if it's a choice between cutting this funding & cutting funding for an early education program or something that will actually impact lives, it's a no brainer. And we're at a point where we have to make those choices.

correct, for once you are correct. unlike you, i have no problem agreeing with you and saying so when you are correct. when you agree with me, you don't say anything for fear you would look bad to your fellow libs.

:)
 
I actually agree with you on this...the more I read and the more I see just how small the Government funding of NPR and CPB are, the more I believe we should just defund and let their pledge drives take up the slack.

I don't think it should be done all at once...maybe spread the defunding out over three years, but I am with you on this...

not a bad idea...3 years allows them to plan for the projected budget shortfall and could result in jobs saved vs. an instant cut that would likely result in numerous jobs cut.
 
correct, for once you are correct. unlike you, i have no problem agreeing with you and saying so when you are correct. when you agree with me, you don't say anything for fear you would look bad to your fellow libs.

:)

What an interesting post; it's much more to take a shot at me than to "agree" with me.

I actually can't think of an instance where I have agreed w/ you. Even in the rare instance when we might have the same basic position, your logic generally blows...
 
How much to bet that your beloved Democrats will claim that the GOP wants to kill Barney? :)

Well, probably not Barney, because PBS doesn't own the exclusive rights to Barney (i don't think), but they will trot out Elmo and Big Bird, some of them already have. http://www.indeonline.com/opinion/x678658145/Elmo-in-the-budget-cross-hairs

The thing is, Sesame Street brings in enormous amounts of revenue through thousands of licensed product lines... it's the one big money-maker PBS owns. Any self-respecting capitalist out there, would LOVE to buy the rights.... so Elmo ain't going away... no one is killing Big Bird... Bert and Ernie will be around for your great grandkids... and they don't need public funding for that to happen.
 
Well, probably not Barney, because PBS doesn't own the exclusive rights to Barney (i don't think), but they will trot out Elmo and Big Bird, some of them already have. http://www.indeonline.com/opinion/x678658145/Elmo-in-the-budget-cross-hairs

The thing is, Sesame Street brings in enormous amounts of revenue through thousands of licensed product lines... it's the one big money-maker PBS owns. Any self-respecting capitalist out there, would LOVE to buy the rights.... so Elmo ain't going away... no one is killing Big Bird... Bert and Ernie will be around for your great grandkids... and they don't need public funding for that to happen.


PBS and NPR would probably get along just fine without public financing but smaller market members stations would likely go under. Basically, the issue isn't whether the federal government should spend money on NPR and PBS, the issue is whether the federal government should subsidize PBS and NPR affiliates in Mousefart, USA.
 
What an interesting post; it's much more to take a shot at me than to "agree" with me.

I actually can't think of an instance where I have agreed w/ you. Even in the rare instance when we might have the same basic position, your logic generally blows...

see ^ exactly what i said...you don't have the confidence to admit you've agreed with me and you don't have the confidence to admit my logic is spot on when you do.

it is real easy to tell you're lying right now...you always attack me when you think i'm wrong...yet are oddly silent on issues you agree with me on.

don't deny it, embrace it, and become a new you.
 
PBS and NPR would probably get along just fine without public financing but smaller market members stations would likely go under. Basically, the issue isn't whether the federal government should spend money on NPR and PBS, the issue is whether the federal government should subsidize PBS and NPR affiliates in Mousefart, USA.

Seems to me, if we cut ALL funding, the problem goes away!! :good4u:
 
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